Jolyon - not worth pursuing - it was your blog and you were writing on it.<div><br></div><div>I leave it there.</div><div><br></div><div>Paul<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/16 Jeremy North <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy.north@gmail.com">jeremy.north@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Thanks for the clarification.<br>
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On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jolyon Smith <<a href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz">jsmith@deltics.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
> No - the original remark was "on page 53" too.<br>
><br>
> It was a *comment* responding to a *comment*. Not a blog post.<br>
><br>
> Paul misrepresented me as having blogged this. I didn't.<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>] On<br>
> Behalf Of Jeremy North<br>
> Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 3:47 p.m.<br>
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented?<br>
><br>
> So you made the remark on the front page and hid the "apology" on the<br>
> 53rd page amongst the classifieds.<br>
><br>
> Hardly a credible thing to do.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jolyon Smith <<a href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz">jsmith@deltics.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I also went on – in a subsequent comment – to say that things that Malcom<br>
>> didn’t seem to consider were that big, *were* in fact very noteworthy and<br>
>> worthwhile additions, imho.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I think the actual position is somewhere between the two views.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> i.e. Delphi 2010 *is* more than just a “bug fix”, but it’s not as *major*<br>
> a<br>
>> release in terms of headline features that 2009 was, for example.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Perhaps Malcolm simply didn’t express that particularly well in Auckland.<br>
>> (there’s a danger that since people often complain that bugs don’t get<br>
>> fixed, attention is then drawn to “how many bugs we fixed” which then<br>
>> distracts away from “how much of, and how big, the new stuff is” – I was<br>
>> commenting on the perception that I felt Malcolm conveyed, not agreeing<br>
> that<br>
>> that perception was necessarily correct).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I myself was perhaps not clear enough on that point (the observations were<br>
>> in comments, not a blog post – I spend more time on posts than on<br>
> comments)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>]<br>
> On<br>
>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman<br>
>> Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 2:59 p.m.<br>
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
>> Subject: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I was not at the Auckland presentation, and have had to rely on others'<br>
>> reporting of it. Jolyon who normally appears to be very careful in what he<br>
>> says and writes has said on his blog:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> "Malcolm Groves stood up in Auckland and openly told us that in his view,<br>
>> apart from 1 or 2 things, and really in *his* opinion only 1, Delphi 2010<br>
>> was basically a bug fix release with lots of little tweaks here and there.<br>
>> They charged full price for it of course and won’t be retrofitting those<br>
> bug<br>
>> fixes to Delphi 2009 or 2007 (where they would be of most use).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> "I stress – that’s not my characterisation of the release as not<br>
> delivering<br>
>> much in the way of “new stuff”, it was his.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> "David" wrote on Jolyon's blog:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> "While I usually agree with you Jolyon I don’t feel Malcolm Groves told us<br>
>> Delphi 10 was mainly just bug fixes. What he did say was that there were<br>
>> only one or two big killer features but there were hundreds of small<br>
>> improvements. Some of these small improvements were no doubt bug fixes,<br>
> but<br>
>> many are enhancements and new features which from the sound of it really<br>
>> improve the IDE."<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Please, Jolyon, David and any one who was there, what is what? -- Because<br>
>> like a lot of people, my decisions on ongoing use and purchase of Delphi<br>
>> very much depends on whether you have to factor in the next version as a<br>
>> paid for bug fix or not, on what you buy.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Paul<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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