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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But if the future is handheld and mobile OSes (which it almost
certainly is in terms of numbers at least) then is Linux and Mac cross platform
really the next stepping stone to take? I don&#8217;t think so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Surely the next step to take would be developing a MobileVCL
which is a cut down and streamlined version of the Windows VCL, with target
platforms such as Symbian, iPhone OS, Android, Windows Mobile, etc. Now THAT
would very much interest me because we could certainly see a use for cut down
field versions of several of our apps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>However I don&#8217;t see how VCLX is really a useful stepping
stone towards running Delphi on mobile devices. If it is the goal and VCLX is
just some sort of expensive and frustrating (for the customers) trial of Cross
Platform development in preparation for the main event then I am extremely
disappointed in Embarcadero. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Bird<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 October 2009 4:57 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Presentation in Christchurch - any other meetings in
Chch?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
think a lot of you are being short sighted.&nbsp; Just my opinion.</span><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
lived through the mini-computer era, using Digital Equipment mini-computers
with RT-11 and VMS - both really good operating systems, and thought at the
time if they started selling VMS for a few $100 rather than thousands they may
have captured the mini-computer market as it was way superior to MS-DOS,
instead they didn't adapt and got clobbered by Microsoft to the extent the
company and the platform does not even exist now.</span><span style='color:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Its
a less certain thing as its still the future, but its my guess likely in 5
years netbooks/laptops and mobile and phone OS will largely kill desktop PCs
and in time likely Windows too, as there is not much sign they will be the
leading candidate for mobile devices in 5 years.&nbsp; Hence the more cross
platform and new UI (read touchscreen) enabled a language is the better
positioned it will be.</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Also
apps are moving more&nbsp;to be web enabled, where the UI is done by the
browser instead, so this also is not really tied to one OS.&nbsp;&nbsp;There
are only a few good frameworks that run across many OS's - think Firefox/Thunderbird
(XUL) and Safari/Itunes etc.&nbsp; As far as I can gather none of these are
remotely easy for new programmers to jump into.</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thats
why I reckon Delphi as a cross platform simple UI language could be a killer,
and why its worth doing even if it is not too easy.</span><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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