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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I might have dismissed the comments as tongue in cheek too had Richard
simply added a “just kidding” to the end of his comments. But he didn’t, and as
it was I felt he left the room with the impression that I was genuinely
unfriendly and unhelpful, which given that he was – presumably – trying to
encourage greater participation on the list seemed a bizarre approach to take in
the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>A colleague observed to me afterward that Richards comments were
“totally uncalled for. And very stupid from a guy like him”, so I wasn’t the
only one that felt that a bad impression of me had been unfairly conveyed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Brennan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 October 2009 4:28 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Indy and Delphi 2010 - supplemental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can’t decide if you are being tongue in cheek yourself or not
here. I thought yes for the first three paragraphs and then no for the next
two.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In any case like Robert Martin I hope no “ham” has been done.
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolyon Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 October 2009 3:50 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Indy and Delphi 2010 - supplemental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>No I was not “a problem” at the Delphi launch. One pointed
and tongue in cheek observation w.r.t the fact that the Project Options dialog
does not itself make use of the much vaunted checkbox property editor for
boolean’s does not amount to “a problem” in my book.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>No, Richard for some reason chose to single me out as unfriendly
and unhelpful specifically w.r.t my contribution to <u>this</u> list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is fair to say that I have taken deep, DEEP offence at that,
being among what I consider to be among the most strenuously helpful and polite
(not to mention trying to straighten out misunderstandings between others who
perhaps have not been so helpful or friendly – not naming names, but shall we
just say that those choosing to reside in glass houses should not be so quick
to throw stones).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Suffice to say that any further software purchases that I
personally make shall not contribute to any swelling of Developers-Inc
coffers. I see no need to be helpful in THAT direction at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It didn’t help – although not directly connected - that presumably
for some other reason Malcolm Groves neglected to mention that it was <i>my</i>
comment on his blog that prompted him to have the conversation with Chris
Bensen (to whom I’d already put the idea, via <u>his</u> blog) about directly
supporting for Synaptics devices in the touch/gesturing engine in Delphi,
preferring instead to give the impression that this was his – or Chris’ - idea.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 October 2009 3:11 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Indy and Delphi 2010 - supplemental<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Your best option is to join the Indy list group and post
there. Remy (i think) is pretty active. I have not seen any posts
about this problem so i think its likely something with your setup.<br>
<br>
Rob<br>
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p.s. I take it you were a 'problem' at the Auckland Delphi launch? <o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-NZ> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-NZ style='color:#FF9900'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Jolyon Smith wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Having switched back to compiling against the version of Indy
supplied with Delphi 2010 itself, this too does not build!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The IdCodeHeader unit references IdHeaderCoderBase unit… this
does not exist in the Indy files supplied with Delphi (but *<b>IS</b>* present
in the latest IndyTiburon.zip…. which I can’t use for the reason in the
previous post).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HELP!? Am I just doing something dumb?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
>From your local, “unfriendly”, “unhelpful” Delphi Advocate,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jolyon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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