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<DIV><SPAN class=410103306-20092009><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>industrial - is the what you are looking for. Unfortunate some of the
remote io (including rs232 modules) is now running windows ce - which is a
concern, just how much are they harden against attack from with in netwok -
security is becoming a problem with staff turn over, you never know how is
working in the plants</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Kyley Harris<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 19 September 2009 11:27
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from
Embarcadero<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Maurice, <BR>Rockwell PLC is quite a
specialised system isn't it? its not as generic as delphi.. Just a curiosity,
not a comparison <BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Maurice Butler <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:likemagic@quicksilver.net.nz">likemagic@quicksilver.net.nz</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>Like wise - professional
Software developer was self employed for 10 years, now receiving income by
salary from a large international company.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I wrote an application
using D3, which is still running reliably in a 24x7 manufacturing
envionment, weigh and labelling product every 3 seconds, and stuffing data
into an oracle database. The qualification is that it either works or it
doesn't, if it doesn't you don't get any more work. The work that i put in
to the development of the application has ment it has run on win98,nt 2k, xp
without any changes. It is also the bench mark that new projects are
compared to. I now work for the company that i wrote that application for
and have been tasked with upgrading or replacing to include a lot more
functionality.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>After downgrading to 2005 I
redeveloped my application to use a Rockwell PLC for another client and gave
delphi the boot, subsequently all installations and varations of it have
ment my money has gone to rockwell for there hardware and
software.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I was looking at upgrading
my copy of Delphi - but to be honest I may well be better off sticking with
the Rockwell PLC, not as nice to code but reliable, occasional bugs
that are fixed without major drama. Espcially if I run into show stoppers
like Delphi 2005</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff size=2
face=Arial>Maurice</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz"
target=_blank>delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz"
target=_blank>delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul A
Norman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 19 September 2009 1:09 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B>
NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] A
change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Richard,</DIV>
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<DIV>" I however, am a professional software developer."</DIV>
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<DIV>I am sure that you are, infact from everything I have heard of you
and your work people should seriously consider looking at you and your
consultancy<BR>for any work espeically in areas of complexity that
need special expertise in advanced programing.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What I am trying to address here is the changed busines model
that the Delphi Community is being asked to swallow hook line and
sinker. It is true as you say that E need to make money. What we and
they are needing to look at is the model by which they wish to do so,
realizing that we are their cash cows!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now what is a "profesional programmer", just one who receives their
income by invoicing directly for progranmming work?</DIV>
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