<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/16 Jolyon Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jsmith@deltics.co.nz">jsmith@deltics.co.nz</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I may be wrong, but I think Paul was more concerned about a
stated intention made to him by Dev-Inc to take a matter up with Borland on his
behalf and then a complete lack of any sort of feedback from Dev-Inc until what
seemed to him to be a condescending comment about his current situation.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Dev Inc has never had a business relationship with Borland per-say. CodeGear when they were part of Borland, but Dev Inc never sold "Borland" products. I am unsure as to where this ostensible stated intention came from. I won't deny it ever happened, but it has not happened in my memory and may have been with another member of Dev Inc. Accusing me of a smirking comment was rude.<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">But as for that $500-$600 price you quote ... That’s
a little disingenuous don’t you think? Current pricing for Delphi
2010 Pro (Named User) is <b><u>$750</u></b> incl GST. Or were you making
an offer of a discount for DUG subscribers? </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>No I don't think it is. D2007 was just over $500 for an upgrade, D2009 was a bit more (and fluctuates with pricing), D2010 is $665+GST. Quoting GST inclusive prices of a business product is disingenuous I think, so I don't do it.<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Remember that many community users are not GST registered.
In many cases we may work for companies that are, but when maintaining our <u>own</u>
licenses we have to pay the full asking price and often we don’t have customers
from whom to recoup the cost.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Ohhhh - I actually know the stats, and a very small number of Delphi licenses are sold to individuals. The reverse to what you are stating is actually true. The fact that most people who have a work license also install it at home if they want to means very few people buy it personally.<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’d also point out that the recent Delphi versions offer
themselves up – or are offered up by CodeGear or others - for comparison
with Visual Studio, in which endeavour they fail in one key respect... the lack
of an entirely FREE edition. (There isn’t even an entry level SKU
comparable to “Standard” edition Visual Studio)</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’d like to prefix “current” to that word “lack”,
but have no reason to do so at the moment.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br>In my opinion (I don't speak for Embarcadero *ever*) Microsoft isn't a tools company, it is a platform company. Visual Studio makes sense to position yourself against simply so managers understand what they are buying.<br>
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