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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree. My business partner was approached by someone about
writing an app. To basically tell the user that the computer is ready to use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My gut feeling is this is not the type of app. Thats going to be
very reliable.....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jeremy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jolyon Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 September 2009 17:48<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] Has Windows finished??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m not sure that any API – even if it exists – can actually be
at all reliable so I doubt that it even exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If it *did exist all it could possibly tell you is that Windows
has loaded and initialised all the processes that it thinks it needs to.
But Windows itself does not and cannot know what those processes are going to
do once launched, so it has no way of knowing if/when those processes
themselves are “finished”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Some won’t *<b>ever</b>* finish. Some of those processes
are launched and then simply sit “resident” (showing my age I think) doing some
work periodically, such as the various “Update service” processes that numerous
applications install these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What constitutes “finished”, in your terms, in these
cases? The executable image has finished loading from disc? The
process associated has *<b>started</b>*? The process associated has *<b>finished</b>*?
If the latter, does that mean terminated and unloaded or simply “gone idle”
(what you consider “idle” being potentially wholly different from what “idle”
means to any one of those processes).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It might be better to ask why you want to do this? What is
it you are trying to achieve in your process? What is it, specifically, you
are waiting for and why?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This might help identify an approach to suit your needs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Jeremy Coulter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 14 September 2009 14:07<br>
<b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [DUG] Has Windows finished??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Hi all.<br>
Is there API or SOMETHING that I can call or look at that will tell me if
windows has finished "Loading". i.e. all the programs that windows
has to load have finshed loading etc. etc.<br>
I guess I can look at the CPU usage, but not sure how good thisis. What if one
of the programs being loaded is a CPU hog because the machine is a bit of a dog
etc.<br>
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Anyone got any ideas?<br>
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Jeremy<o:p></o:p></p>
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