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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078260223-06082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>well I have server 2008 too...maybe I should put that on
:-) ah the choices :-o</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078260223-06082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=078260223-06082009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Jeremy</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave
O'Brien<BR><B>Sent:</B> 7 August 2009 10:59<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers
Group - Delphi List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or
not?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
issue with 32 bit is that it can only address 4GB. Hardware uses space from 4GB
down, so depending on the hardware, you lose anywhere up to 1GB from the
available 4GB Windows limit. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">64
bit still has the same issue, but from 128GB which is a Windows limit on Vista,
probably the same for Windows 7.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Server
2003 can address up to 128GB (4GB for SBS) in the 32 bit edition or 2TB in 64
bit. Funnily enough, Server 2008 can only address 64GB in the 32 bit version.
That must really annoy people. Who would ever need 64GB Ram? </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Jeremy Coulter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 7 August 2009 10:29
a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or
not?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">does
windows 7 see all the RAM?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Jeremy</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Jolyon Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> 7 August 2009 10:27<BR><B>To:</B> 'NZ
Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] to Vista
64bit or not?</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
real question though is how much benefit you actually got from that extra 0.5 -
1GB ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’m
guessing not much. Not really. But if you’ve got a system equipped
with 6GB or 8GB… at that point 64-bit makes perfect sense (and if you’re the
sort of user that is loading a 4GB system so heavily that the extra 0.5-1GB
*<B>does</B>* make a difference, you’re probably the sort of user that would
like 6-8GB of RAM anyway and you’ve already long since moved on to
64-bit).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">But
at 4GB I really don’t think there’s much in it, so whilst there may not be a
specific reason to use 32-bit, there’s also no great compelling reason to use
64-bit either, and a few *<B>potential</B>* reasons not to (lack of 64-bit
support for XYZ, where XYZ varies from individual to individual) potential
complications when running (some) 32-bit software etc etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">+0.02<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Sean Cross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 7 August 2009 10:12<BR><B>To:</B> NZ
Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] to Vista
64bit or not?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Vista
32 will never see all 4 gb due to mapping issues with the video card etc.
Under Vista 32, I got between 3 and 3.5 gb available on my laptops. Vista
64 got the lot. How much you lose depends on your video card
memory.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Sean
Cross<BR>CIO<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Catalyst
Risk Management<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Jolyon Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 7 August 2009 10:01
a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or
not?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">aiui
if you’ve only got 4GB of RAM then I don’t think 64-bit is going to make that
much of a difference. Of course, if you have the capacity to go beyond 4GB
of physical RAM and the intention to do so, then 64-bit might be
worthwhile.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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