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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>True - that table part of
the formatting is not done either by Google or KompoZer - it was done by a
utility dating from 2003 which converted text based help files into HTML.
At that stage tables was the most common way to do it. I have often
copied the base layout and just altered the text in the boxes for different
pages.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Well its the way most programs get
written too, with similar bits of code being cloned and altered to fit - no
matter how old-fashioned if it works. Credit to Google pagemaker and
Kompozer that they accepted code like this copied in by pasting the HTML and had
no problems. The original has a separate css file with header layouts etc
defined, however I think thats an issue with Google pagemaker - it imposes
its own css I think, not sure if one can embed one, and at that point I reach
the edge of my html knowledge and as long as it worked I was happy
enough.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Fully agree about the advantages of
css in general, especially as ie8 seems now to have come to the
party.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana color=#800000
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2>That site is doing it the "old" way with html tables. It
works and is reliable but includes a lot of extra tags in the markup which
only relate to layout and not content. The modern approach is to use CSS
wherever possible so the html source is cleaner. This becomes even more
important if you are wanting a CMS to let your users edit the
content.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2>Some reading on rounded corners:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://kalsey.com/2003/07/rounded_corners_in_css/">http://kalsey.com/2003/07/rounded_corners_in_css/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/">http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customcorners/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/4corners/">http://www.redmelon.net/tstme/4corners/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://webdesign.html.it/articoli/leggi/528/more-nifty-corners/">http://webdesign.html.it/articoli/leggi/528/more-nifty-corners/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2>and a very good article on Tables vs.
CSS:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://www.sitepoint.com/article/tables-vs-css/">http://www.sitepoint.com/article/tables-vs-css/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2>regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=273322301-06042009><FONT face=Verdana
color=#800000 size=2>Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> PDS - John [mailto:John@padasy.co.nz]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 6 April 2009 8:37 a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'NZ Borland
Developers Group - Delphi List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Website
presentation<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Richard<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">What
I was referring to is the 'nice' rounded boxes, like at <A
href="http://www.memoriestodvdonline.com/">http://www.memoriestodvdonlinecom/</A>,
where:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-
the header is in<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-
the menu is in<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-
etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">What
is the name for this type of frame/border graphics?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">John<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Richard Vowles<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 5 April 2009 9:07
p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Website
presentation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">You need to be a bit more
specific - can you point to an existing web page and an element on such that
shows us what you mean?<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>2009/4/2 PDS - John <<A
href="mailto:John@padasy.co.nz">John@padasy.co.nz</A>><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Hi all<o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P>How can I create graphics frames for my website? is the a tool or perhaps
a website where I can create any?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>-- <BR>---<BR>Richard
Vowles, Technical Advisor<BR>Developers Inc Ltd<BR>web. <A
href="http://www.developers-inc.co.nz">http://www.developers-inc.co.nz</A><BR>ph.
+64-9-3600231, mob. +64-275-467747, fax. +64-9-3600384<BR>skype. rvowles,
LinkedIn, Twitter<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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