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    <span style=
      "color:#FF0000 "><b><span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif ">[Reply]</span></b></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">HI Berend,</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">A</span><span style=
      "color:#FF0000 "><b>t 07:43 on 31/07/2008 you wrote </b></span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;To  : delphi@delphi.org.nz</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">I agree to the point regarding the example of the Medical profession, where it is totally dominated by the Pharmaceutical industry as well - but at least someone calling themselves an MD for the most is found to be qualified. There will always be frauds, but for the most it works.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">The IT industry has it's own equivalent of  "Pharmaceutical Industry backing", and I believe that a strong profession - formulating independent educational standards is important, otherswise M$, Cisco, etc  "qualifications" will become the default - creating inbred and indoctrinated students.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">Also "startup technologies" - eg Linux, would more likely to be marginalised in the same way the Natural Health industry has been by the medical profession - and <u>not</u> for "professional" reasons.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">kr</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#000000 ">Gary</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;CC  : </span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;From: Berend de Boer, berend@pobox.com</span></span>
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      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Content Type: text/plain</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Attached: </span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Gary" == Gary T Benner &lt;gary@benner.co.nz&gt; writes:</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; Like funeral directors, who need no formal qualifications,</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; anyone can buy a copy of Delphi, VS, or whatever, and call</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; themselves a software developer, software engineer, or</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; software architect ( if they add a briefcase and suit ). There</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; is no professional body to manage the "profession", and no</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; recourse for aggrieved clients as there is for any of the</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;    Gary&gt; recognised professions ( except the oldest of course!).</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;And we all know that the industries with "managed professions", the</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;medical industry comes to mind, manages their professions so well that</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;we never have cases of fraud and deception.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;So let's hope we never get to see the day that a self-appointed elite</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;will manage the industry.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;We're all much better off if we compete on output and productivity. And</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;everyone knows there's no link between education and productivity in</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;programming.</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;-- </span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Cheers,</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Berend de Boer</span></span>
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      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;_______________________________________________</span></span>
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      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list</span></span>
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      <span style=
      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz</span></span>
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      "font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
      "color:#008000 ">&gt;Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi</span></span>
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