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<span style=
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"color:#000000 ">HI all,</span></span>
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<span style=
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"color:#FF0000 "><b>t 18:33 on 30/07/2008 Todd wrote </b></span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#008000 ">>Well I would say a "Software Architect" must be an order of magnitude </span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#008000 ">>higher than a "Software Engineer", given the lowly status of engineering </span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#008000 ">>in NZ.</span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#000000 ">Having worked in an office of Professional Engineers & Architects, they would both relunctantly agree that they are both professions of equal standing. MaxRF will back me here I'm sure in this opinion.</span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#000000 ">In the software industry we have no such clearly defined boundaries for our profession - we actually do not even have a "profession" - well not one that is recognised as such.</span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#000000 ">At a recent NACCQ conference (National Advisory Committee on Computing Qualifications), there was a keynote speech on this topic, and the work being done by the NZ Computing Society to bring recognition of the "ICT profession" - including of course software. LaurieB, you may want to add something here.</span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#000000 ">Like funeral directors, who need no formal qualifications, anyone can buy a copy of Delphi, VS, or whatever, and call themselves a software developer, software engineer, or software architect ( if they add a briefcase and suit ). There is no professional body to manage the "profession", and no recourse for aggrieved clients as there is for any of the recognised professions ( except the oldest of course!).</span></span>
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<span style=
"font-family:MS Sans Serif "><span style=
"color:#000000 ">If anyone is interested, go visit http://www.nzcs.org.nz and see what the NZ Computing Society is trying to do.</span></span>
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<span style=
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"color:#000000 ">cheers</span></span>
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<span style=
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"color:#000000 ">Gary</span></span><p>
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