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color=#0000ff size=2>Yeah?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I haven't got the TelstraClear TOS available, but my
recollection was that you could run a server at home? Not that I
do...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Nice that you get a static IP with TelstraClear
too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><B>From:</B> delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeremy
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>Hi Rohit....I
thought you were not alowed to run internet servers on your home PC with Xtra?
Atleast that was what they told me some time ago, and even Paradise made that
comment to me at some stage when I was talking to one of their tech support
guys, but then said...."its a stupid and we dont enforce it" and neither does
TelstraClear...as I run a mailserver too :-)<BR><FONT
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<DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Rohit Gupta <A
href="mailto:rohit@cfl.co.nz">rohit@cfl.co.nz</A><BR><SPAN
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<DIV>What Xtra did was to classify their users as home or business. For
home users, outlook presumably sorts out the requirement of ssl. And
business users are using mail servers so they have to use SSL
explicitly. The problem is that there are many users that are businesses
without a mail server and home users with a mailserver. They will have
problems. Add to that if you application does not support SSL, then you
are stuffed.<BR><BR>At home, I run a mailserver called hamster.
<BR><BR>It suddenly stopped working, it was still receiving some emails (not
all) but not sending any. <BR><BR>I tried the webmail - that did not
work with IE or Firefox. <BR><BR>I read the old emails from xtra,
found one with a url link which forced me to register for yahoo. A page
in the middle of the registration told me to change the port numbers. I
did that but still no luck.<BR><BR>I had heard on the radio about business
customers having problems, so I enabled SSL3 on hamster. Now the error
message changed, but still no luck. Then I tried SSL2 and it burst into
life. When I complained to the CEO, the reply was a link to their
website - this one tells you to use SSL :-)<BR><BR>Basically, they still treat
their customers like shit and act like a monopoly. They only reason I
have not changed as that I dont want to change my email address. I will
just have to get a domain name for my emails.<BR><BR>
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