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What Xtra did was to classify their users as home or business. For
home users, outlook presumably sorts out the requirement of ssl. And
business users are using mail servers so they have to use SSL
explicitly. The problem is that there are many users that are
businesses without a mail server and home users with a mailserver.
They will have problems. Add to that if you application does not
support SSL, then you are stuffed.<br>
<br>
At home, I run a mailserver called hamster. <br>
<br>
It suddenly stopped working, it was still receiving some emails (not
all) but not sending any. <br>
<br>
I tried the webmail - that did not work with IE or Firefox. <br>
<br>
I read the old emails from xtra, found one with a url link which
forced me to register for yahoo. A page in the middle of the
registration told me to change the port numbers. I did that but still
no luck.<br>
<br>
I had heard on the radio about business customers having problems, so I
enabled SSL3 on hamster. Now the error message changed, but still no
luck. Then I tried SSL2 and it burst into life. When I complained to
the CEO, the reply was a link to their website - this one tells you to
use SSL :-)<br>
<br>
Basically, they still treat their customers like shit and act like a
monopoly. They only reason I have not changed as that I dont want to
change my email address. I will just have to get a domain name for my
emails.<br>
<br>
<br>
Tracey wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I had to change my friend's setup over the weekend. Some clients wont work
unless you set them to use sll & port 465, some they recommend stay on port
25.
I don't understand their reasoning but it IS Xtra we are talking about.
What sort of w****ers change their smtp server address out of the blue and
leave unskilled users out in the cold??
Xtra
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@delphi.org.nz</a>] On
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Hi Sandeep,
We don't use Indy, but we have had few problems connecting to Xtra since
the change. But what are you talking about with port 465? SMTP uses
port 25.
Regards,
Bevan
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<pre wrap="">Hi
I am having difficulty connecting to xtra smtp server after they changed
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<pre wrap=""><!---->their smtp server to point to send.xtra.co.nz and port to 465.
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<pre wrap="">Has anyone managed to send emails using xtra after this change and if so
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<pre wrap=""><!---->could anyone please give an example of what needs to be done in order for
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Sandeep
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