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<div>Compared to Borland's (or historic Borland's) corporate culture and especially Delphi type of stuff, I think that MS folk are corporately bred or mutated just to operate in a different commercial realm . . they had some agreement between them and hardware manufactures which apparently came out during those Senate hearings in Washington, which basically says it all, it stated that they would be leveraging the requirements of hardware up and up through the OS's needs.
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<div>MS folk are very upward mobile - and if you spend time with any long termer MS folk you get the USA type of feeling of -- What would you want to run a slower machine for, than you could be running any way?</div>
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<div>bigger .. faster .. better ... the American way!</div>
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<div>They would think us strange to not just run out and buy new machines if the update or new OS means the current machine is now, oh, <u>so last month</u>!</div>
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<div>They (or many of the MS crew) would quite genuinely think us strange for thinking that they would engineer even updates for <u>last week's</u> computer.</div>
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<div>Its quite amazing the first time you strike it, and there is a certain truth in it, though many of us can not bear the financial reality of it.</div>
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<div>USA Americans will often feel that we waste time on things that we really should throw money at. </div>
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<div>And they do have a valid point, its a bit of a kiwi weakness the number eight wire approach when we should use the proper thing even if it costs. </div>
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<div>Then N#8 also gives us an innovative edge . . . but some where may be we can learn from the MS approach (what am I saying!) But it might be true ... </div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 07/07/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">David Brennan</b> <<a href="mailto:dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz">dugdavid@dbsolutions.co.nz</a>> wrote:</span>
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delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul A Norman<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:46 p.m.<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:johnkbird@paradise.net.nz" target="_blank">
johnkbird@paradise.net.nz</a>; NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] D2006/Rave/Memory</span></font></p></div></div>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've been using 500Mb ram for two and half years now, and all has been fine uintil the last couple of auto-updates from MS for Xp it seems. Now for some reason I don't seem to be able to easily do many memory intensive things that I have done for ages.
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delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Bird<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:34 a.m.<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">
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