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So is this another way of saying that the only really strong incentive
to move to .NET is ECO?<br>
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Also, when is your next tutorial/seminar on it?<br>
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Phil.<br>
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Richard Vowles wrote:
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<pre wrap="">There is already migration from 2 -> 3 and no reason they won't
continue. The migration hassles from 2 -> 3 were simply the change in
the way the code gen took place.
For .NET BDS users (DDS?), I will be spending quite a bit of effort in
educating the market with this tool, tutorials, seminars, example
projects, etc. Lots of plans around this. Lots. Not neglecting win32
though, as has been mentioned many a time, win32 is faster and does
almost everything .net does, it is a major selling point of the product
suite.
Richard
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>]
On Behalf Of Alister Christie
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:20 p.m.
To: Nahum Wild; NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: ECO Tuitorials [was Re[2]: [DUG] D2006]
I have also been highly impressed by the demos on ECO and want to get
into it. I also liked the look of Bold but never really had a project
for it. I may have a project (in the next year or two) that I maybe
able to try ECO out on. I just need to find some time to learn it.
My only worry with ECO is that the projects I'm involved in tend to be
long lived, will I be able to open an ECO III project in ECO IX like you
can with old delphi projects.
Nahum Wild wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I've seen ECO demo'd several times and even read a case study about
it. Leading me to be extremely impressed by it.
I've tried playing with it a couple of times and found it didn't work
as easily for me as in the demos (surprise surprise) - to the point of
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<pre wrap="">giving up. One problem I have is all the class names don't make much
sense to me - they are all very long. So I've tried hunting for
resources online to help but couldn't find much except for a
multi-article post on the borland community site with step by step
instructions - which didn't work anyway. A number of the blogs I've
looked at are aimed at people that already know how to use it - this
seems to be a common theme for anything ECO I find online.
The question being, does anyone know of good FREE online resources for
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Cheers,
Nahum.
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There isn't just a Delphi 2006 trial, but I do have it on DVD in case
anyone wants me to burn a copy for them.
If you are sticking with Delphi, you should look at ECO. It is far
superior to what is available in .NET, even in .NET 2.0, far more
productive and is a _key_ cornerstone of BDS's competitive advantage
going forward. And it is in the Pro version - more bits in each
version as you go up.
Richard
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 7:24 a.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
its not a case of need, but from what I have seen, 2.0 certainly looks
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<pre wrap="">a bit better/easier to use.
The one example I would use is working with databases. in 1.1 you have
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<pre wrap="">to go thru the whole bind and the other thing I forget now, to read
data from a db. in 2.0 its just connect and access. Same process, just
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<pre wrap="">more intuative I thought...but thats only me of course.
I have just downloaded (overnight) the BDS2006 trial. I could not find
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<pre wrap="">a trial of just D2006 on its own. once again, this might have been me
not seeing it. IF not, I wonder if the 500mb+ trial download puts
people off. It sure made me think twice.
So if there IS just a D2006 trial download, can someone let me know
where it is?
Thanks, Jeremy
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<pre wrap="">From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] On Behalf Of Richard Vowles
Sent: 23 May 2006 23:10
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
Why do you need .NET 2.0?
Apart from generics, everything else is available elsewhere AFAIK.
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Sent: Tue 23/05/2006 22:46
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
agh...thats what I thought....damn...IS there going to be a Delphi
version soon that supports .NET 2.0 ?
If not, I am faces with VS2005 and learning C# which, I dont have time
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<pre wrap="">for right now either...sigh....well I could us VB.NET but I REFUSE to
go backwards :-)
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