<div>Jeremey, </div>
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<div>Downloaded the 12mb PPForm1600b2 setup.exe.</div>
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<div>It seems to actually make Php5 pages.</div>
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<div>I'm still wondering what it is doing with some comnponents but it looks like a major achievement.</div>
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<div>Converts to HTML a reasonible likeness of many of the std Win32 and Win 3.1 components it displays.</div>
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<div>Extraordinary infact.</div>
<div>Trust there are no issues on providence of the whole thing.</div>
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<div>Paul<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/04/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeremy Coulter</b> <<a href="mailto:vss@vss.co.nz">vss@vss.co.nz</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Forget the below....I downloaded the demo....after puttung the page thru babel fish to find the download link.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Jeremy</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz" target="_blank">
delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Coulter<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2006 18:39</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">so this IDE only makes WinForms ? its not for making HTML pages I take it.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Jeremy</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz" target="_blank">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz" target="_blank">
delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul A Norman<br><b>Sent:</b> 27 April 2006 18:23<br><b>To:</b> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [DUG] More Delphi news...<br></font><br>
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<div>From the Prado new Forums <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/topic,2481.0.html" target="_blank">http://www.pradosoft.com/forum/index.php/topic,2481.0.html
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<div>This looks like a Borland type IDE for writing PHP!</div>
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<div><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://ppform.com/demo/?type=swf" target="_blank">http://ppform.com/demo/?type=swf</a><br><br> </div>
<div>Site is in Chinese.</div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/04/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeremy Coulter</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vss@vss.co.nz" target="_blank">vss@vss.co.nz</a>> wrote:
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<div> Oh ok. I have not really looked at PHP before, well looked, just not done anything with it.</div>
<div>Could have a look tho at prado</div>
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<div>Jeremy</div>
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<div style="DIRECTION: ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:52:20 +1200</div>
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<div>Depending on Db issues have you looked in to Prado Jeremy? With Php4Delphi php and delphi apps can talk to eachother.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 27/04/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeremy Coulter</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vss@vss.co.nz" target="_blank">vss@vss.co.nz</a>> wrote:
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<div> Yeah, I must admit, I am stuggeling to find a need to use .NET, apart from Webservices are quite easy to make, and the ability to make apps. for mobile PC's.</div>
<div>BUT, I know its the way forward, so I need to do SOMETHING, prob. some framework 2 training as I did frame work 1.1. and my documentation is slightly different etc. etc.</div>
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<div>Just ont he subject of Intraweb, how many of you out there are using it? I quite like it, but have not done a lot of development with it, although I am thinking about it for a thin client solution I need to look.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: monospace, courier new, courier">I think this comes down to horses for courses. I spent 3 years doing C# and C++ before coming back to delphi. There are a number of areas where C# is better and and a large number of areas where it is worse.
<br><br>Server side, C# and .net is probably better (althoug I find intraweb easier to use than asp) but for client side apps delphi is far better. C# has a larger and richer stand library but a much worse visual control set.
<br><br>The only real advatage of C# for me is garbage collection (which is not a panacea for memory leaks) which is vastly outweighted by it's inability to compile to native code.<br><br>YMMV.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Sean<br>
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