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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Paul,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Unfortunately, I am not in a position to authoratively
answer your questions. Borland as far as I know has no plans to host Delphi on
Eclipse (JBuilder is going that way though), the comment about the credit cards
is that DevCo has to get back to being value for the developer - the one who
buys, not the big company with the CTO/CIO who issues the big purchase orders.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Are there going to be any more updates for D2005? Not that
I am aware of. Do I know that DevCo are hiring more R&D staff? Yes -
they are committed to significantly expanding the R&D team. The comment
about "Borland can't make money out of the IDE business" is rubbish - it can't
make money out of the Java IDE business with its current strategy but that
comment has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the Delphi business - or InterBase
business for that matter. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>There is a really different attitude in the DevCo side of
the business that I am now on. Really, really different. It is so pro-Developer,
pro-Quality, pro-getting out there that it is quite astounding.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>About your inability to receive our special offers, there
isn't much I can do about that at the moment either. I do hope to be able to
sort out all of these issues in the short term. But there is some internal
structural changes going on at Borland. Also be aware that if you have an
anti-Spam filter, or you have had one in the past you may no longer get emails
from us.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If you want to talk about this offline, and off-email then
call me and I'd be happy to chew the fat as it were :-) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I am planning a Delphi User Group meeting for next month, I
want it to focus on "news/roadmap" and some valuable stuff. I would like to
focus an evening around win32, .net and a show case - so everyone gets
value.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=615040805-27042006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Richard</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>---</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect,
Borland New Zealand</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>email: <A
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>phone: +64-9-9184573</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>cell: +64-21-467747</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>other: MSN <A
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A>, skype:
rvowles</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>blog: <A
href="http://www.usergroup.org.nz/blogs/selectBlog.html?id=39769">http://www.usergroup.org.nz/blogs/selectBlog.html?id=39769</A></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul A
Norman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 27 April 2006 2:38 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> NZ
Borland Developers Group - Delphi List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] More Delphi
news...<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>Thanks Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>I think that folks might like to see the
warning in another article on the same site you point us to Richard. Entitled
"<FONT color=#000000><STRONG>Borland gambles without developers
</STRONG></FONT>" (<A
href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/02/09/borland_exits_ide_market/">http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/02/09/borland_exits_ide_market/</A>) it
is a chilling insight into what is happening at a deep level, and there is
little in the new article to make me feel any happier than thinking that Borland
(and who ever developes the IDE) wants to have its cake and eat the crumbs
( <U>us</U>) as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>What do people think, does all of
that newest article (<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/04/26/brown_borland_tools/"
target=_blank> <FONT
size=2>http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/04/26/brown_borland_tools/</FONT></A>)
reflect solid, careful, purposeful thinking, or is it just some market
anaylist just trying to skim the best ideas from things happening already
from other inovaters like Red Hat etc ? </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"There is a model with the likes of Red Hat making money from support and
added services. Borland is a global company and the IDE business will be
global," Brown said. "It will be a matter of how can we get more of the IDE
products into developers hands for good money, <FONT
color=#cc0000><U><STRONG>and [being] less hung up on licensing
model</STRONG></U></FONT>," Brown said. "When we spin off the IDE business we
will be a big startup."</DIV>
<P>"Another challenge is who will buy Borland's tools. One reason Borland
moved into ALM and upped its pitch was to target executives and IT directors
who - unlike developers - hold the keys to the large purchasing decisions. It
seems Borland's IDE business will try to shift pricing to suit the budgets of
<FONT color=#cc0000>developers, whose spending runs to several thousand
dollars and can be put through on a credit card</FONT>. "We won't be speaking
to CTOs except in rare instances," Brown said.</P>
<P>"Borland is evaluating subscriptions,<FONT color=#ff0000>
<U><STRONG>but</STRONG></U></FONT><U><STRONG> <FONT color=#ff0000>Brown noted
there is unlikely to be a change in the short term to the current
licensing-base approach </FONT></STRONG></U>. The IDE business also expects to
use <FONT color=#993399>web-based marketing</FONT> to reach
developers."</P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000099><FONT color=#000066>So they are going to do
more with less? and keep more people happy? What is this talk of paid services
-</FONT> <U><STRONG>make us cash cows</STRONG> <FONT color=#cc0000>"developers,
whose spending runs to several thousand dollars and can be put through on a
credit card"</FONT></U> </FONT><FONT color=#000066>instead of properly
resourcing us initially with decent help files and stuff (as
happened D2005 forward?) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000099></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>"<EM>Support</EM>" on things that aren't
properly explained or made to work properly in the first place, now to be
charged to our '<FONT color=#cc0000>several thousand dollar </FONT>' credit
cards?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066><U>For the first time ever</U> I would have to
ask, will the IDE development company be giving me value for money, now that the
traditional corporate culture of Borland, service, reliability, character, and
longterm commitment, all good traits, are not guranteed in a new entity
that is already simply evaluating the limit on my credit card? And thow to pull
more out from us? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>Did someone else mention Lazarus, Mono and
so on today . . . . ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>Does there need to be careful thoiught into
whether getting money into Lazarus, or like, would pay better dividends long
term than just becoming cash cows to soneone elses share holders?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>I still don't have a D2005 that works properly
. . . any more<FONT color=#000099> </FONT><STRONG><EM><FONT
color=#cc0000>free</FONT></EM></STRONG></FONT><FONT color=#000099> </FONT>
<FONT color=#000066>fixes for that in the pipeline?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT color=#000066>As far as the new <FONT color=#993399>web
marketing satrategy</FONT> goes, I never got advised of the discounted offers on
the D2006. Yet I ticked every box ever put in front of me to request such
notifications. </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Brown is placing his faith in the concept of "smaller means more
efficient." He believes a smaller organization, independent of the large
Borland machine, will have more resources to develop features and functions
instead of just "writing infrastructure." Brown estimates that <FONT
color=#006600>two thirds of resources for JBuilder went into building
infrastructure</FONT> and just one third into features. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT color=#000066>Can you have features with out being supported by a
decent infrstructure?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000066>What is meant here? reliance ion the IBM Eclipse and
conmnected projects?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000066></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000066>- or <U>gold from lead</U> via <STRONG>our</STRONG>
credit cards?</FONT><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000066>Paul A Norman</FONT><BR> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 27/04/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Richard
Vowles</B> <<A
href="mailto:Richard.Vowles@borland.com">Richard.Vowles@borland.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/04/26/brown_borland_tools/"
target=_blank>http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/04/26/brown_borland_tools/
</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>---</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr"><SPAN class=sg>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard Vowles, Solutions Architect,
Borland New Zealand</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>email: <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com"
target=_blank>richard.vowles@borland.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>phone: +64-9-9184573</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>cell: +64-21-467747</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>other: MSN <A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com"
target=_blank>richard.vowles@borland.com</A>, skype: rvowles</FONT> </DIV>
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