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<DIV> Yeah the F5 button issue was a problem ,and also originally the
version that comes with D7 would not even handle the back button in your
browser of choice.</DIV>
<DIV>They seem to be a number of version along now, so just wondered if
anyone else has tried they latest one.</DIV>
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<DIV>I am laos looking at a product call Babyweb which I looked at a while
ago, that is basically a webserver that will let you run "Most" ASP pages
thru it. The good thing about it is, its like 200KB, reliable, you can even
run CGI apps thru it, AND its free...well not for non commercial, thats $200
US which is still a good price, but where its good for me is, I can develop
ASP pages and know I cen release it to a site with IIS already running, OR
use babyweb if the machine our software runs on is on like a win98
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<DIV>Jeremy</DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: "Kyley Harris" <kyley@harrissoftware.com><BR>To:
"NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi@ns3.123.co.nz><BR>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:30:48 +1200<BR>Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi
news...<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I found intraweb to
be junkware.<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The documentation
is sadly lacking for the price charged for the full version. <o:p></o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This review is a
year old. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT>
<FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR:
navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It had so many bugs
its not funny. More often than not. Pressing f5 on the browser would come up
with “browser not supported errors” and then press it again would be
fine. Like Russian roulette. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The session
management got corrupted very very easily. The html output was
disgusting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I actually found it
much easier to simply learn more about how javascript actually works, and
html. And then use a decent html editor (dreamweaver or notepad) to template
up all my pages. And the use a simple TWebModule, or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Other with action
handlers. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is really quite
easy to use a TWebRequest and TWebResponse object with some mailmerge
features on html to do most stuff.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
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delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jeremy Coulter<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 27 April 2006 4:22
p.m.<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <?xml:namespace
prefix = st1 /><st1:PersonName w:st="on">NZ Borland Developers Group -
<st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [DUG] More Delphi
news...</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Yeah, I must admit, I am stuggeling to find a
need to use .NET, apart from Webservices are quite easy to make, and the
ability to make apps. for mobile PC's.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">BUT, I know its the way forward, so I need to do
SOMETHING, prob. some framework 2 training as I did frame work 1.1. and my
documentation is slightly different etc. etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Just ont he subject of Intraweb, how many of you out
there are using it? I quite like it, but have not done a lot of development
with it, although I am thinking about it for a thin client solution I need
to look.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
"Sean Cross - CRM" <sean.cross@crm.co.nz><BR>To: "<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List</st1:PersonName>"
<delphi@ns3.123.co.nz><BR>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:02:47 +1200<BR>
Subject: RE: [DUG] More Delphi news...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Courier New" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I think this comes down to horses for
courses. I spent 3 years doing C# and C++ before coming back to delphi.
There are a number of areas where C# is better and and a large number
of areas where it is worse.<BR><BR>Server side, C# and .net is probably
better (althoug I find intraweb easier to use than asp) but for client side
apps delphi is far better. C# has a larger and richer stand library
but a much worse visual control set. <BR><BR>The only real advatage of
C# for me is garbage collection (which is not a panacea for memory leaks)
which is vastly outweighted by it's inability to compile to native code.<BR>
<BR>YMMV.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Sean<BR>-----------------------------<BR>
Sean Cross<BR>Systems Development<BR><BR>CRM<BR><st1:address w:st="on">
<st1:Street w:st="on">PO Box</st1:Street> 230</st1:address><BR>Napier<BR>
Phone: 06 835 5868<BR><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">
Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>: 021 270 3466<BR>Email:
sean.cross@crm.co.nz<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR>
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