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Yes, Either way really, as long as they got back to basics. but lets
face it... They lost the plot with Inprise.<br>
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Stefan Mueller wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But then I
would prefer it the other way
around – </span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Delphi</span></font><font
color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> stays with
Borland and all the other stuff goes under a new
company name ... Borland has always been and should stay a brand name
for software
compilers and IDE’s. Giving </span></font><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Delphi</span></font><font
color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> a new
company branding would kill it as nobody percept it as a serious
and supported development platform anymore.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Stefan</span></font></p>
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Kyley Harris<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US">Friday, July 29, 2005</span></font><font color="black"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US"> </span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US">1:21 PM</span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NZ Borland
Developers Group - </span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US">Delphi</span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"
lang="EN-US"> List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG]
Borland breakup
demanded</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Actually,
I think its a
great idea. I would rate all the problems found in the current version
of
delphi as being lack of focus. Trying to make delphi into a wrapper for
all the
other spin off products instead of keeping delphi as delphi. A delphi
only company
would be good for the ide and the language.<br>
<br>
Stefan Mueller wrote: </span></font></p>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;" wrap=""><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Did any of you read the latest twist in this break up story?</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a
href="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050727/daw029.html?.v=16">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050727/daw029.html?.v=16</a></span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;" wrap=""><font color="black"
face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">.... I believe that Borland can maximize the value of the </span></font>Delphi and the</pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Deploy (Visibroker, Borland Application Server and related software) product</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">groups by spinning them off or selling them as soon as possible ....</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">ouch .. I don't like the sound of that one ...</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Regards,</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Stefan Mueller</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a> [<a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>] On</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead</span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: </span></font>Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:35 AM</pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To: Paul A Norman; NZ Borland Developers Group - </span></font>Delphi List</pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: RE: [DUG] Borland breakup demanded</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I don't care they breakup or not.</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I just want two points here.</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Delphi</span></font> really should offer 64bit compile. And I would like continue</pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">development of Kylix.</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Regards</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Leigh</span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="http://www.salenz.com">http://www.salenz.com</a></span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a></span></font></pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">[<a
href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>]On Behalf Of Paul A Norman</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent: </span></font>Saturday, 23 July 2005 1:35 p.m.</pre>
<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To: NZ Borland Developers Group - </span></font>Delphi List</pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject: [DUG] Borland breakup demanded</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Posted this to Off Topic, but felt it belonged here:</span></font></pre>
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<pre style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Courier New"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Any one in Borland Australasia up with the play with the following yet?</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From: <a
href="http://uk.builder.com/0,39026540,39257625,00.htm">http://uk.builder.com/0,39026540,39257625,00.htm</a></span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Borland breakup demanded</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Martin LaMonica, </span></font>20 July 2005</pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">CNET News.com</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">A former Borland board member wants the company split along</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">development tool lines and is developing a plan to make it happen</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Robert Coates, a shareholder and former board member of Borland, has</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">said that he will submit a plan to spin off some product lines in</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Wednesday, Coates said he is developing a plan to break off Borland's</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">different development tool product units as separate companies to</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">dependable and sustainable growth in revenues and earnings from a core</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">facing increasing competition from open source alternatives and larger</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">companies, notably IBM and Microsoft. The company's chief executive,</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Dale Fuller, resigned earlier this month when Borland said its</span></font></pre>
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size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">second-quarter loss would be larger than expected. The forthcoming</span></font></pre>
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