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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think that's a pretty good summary Kyley.
Although I would add "the ability to factor new functionality into generic
classes/procedure, to maximise code reuse". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can't count the number of times I've
seen so-called "experienced" programmers copy and paste existing code.
It drives me crazy. If there's a bug somewhere, I only want to fix it
once!</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=KyleyHarris@gmail.com href="mailto:KyleyHarris@gmail.com">Kyley
Harris</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=delphi@ns3.123.co.nz
href="mailto:delphi@ns3.123.co.nz">NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 15, 2005 4:17 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Meeting deadlines in itself is a very bad measure. Too often
have I seen people "Meet the deadline" but the cost of ownership because 4
times what it should have because of implementation. It's good to have someone
that can assess the time of a job based on their own limitations, (and be
accurate to +/- 25% :D )<BR><BR>Everyone has different styles of development.
Neven has his own framework, I also have a framework for my applications, and
many others. When hiring anyone I would be looking for people that can follow
instructions well, don't go off on a tangent, and code consistently to the
standard requested by the employer (including syntax layout, as well as just
how to do the job) I would also be wanting staff that can see the potential
pit falls of a design and offer suggestions to improve or enhance the work
they should be doing (This is different from the employee "knowing" his way is
better and doing it without telling, which ends up costing lots of money
later), ie Forward Thinking rather than a human typewriter with Delphi Syntax
skills. <BR><BR>Lastly, someone who doesn't leave the job deciding that all
the ideas you left him with would be a great idea for a new competing product
:)<BR><BR>David Brennan wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid20050715040437.A703BAE3CC@smtp-3.paradise.net.nz
type="cite"><PRE wrap="">What do you mean?
An excellent programmer = 2.5 good programmers = 10 mediocre programmers =
infinite number of poor programmers
Something like that? Or are you meaning how do you identify a good
programmer?
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Secondly, how do employers rate a good programmer?
David O'Brien
(<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:dave@iccs.co.nz">dave@iccs.co.nz</A>)
-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</A>] On
Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 2:07 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?
David
This is exactly my point, .Net was a reaction to Java, XAML is reactive
to XUL, Freedom to inovate, bullshit, I also find in hilarious that
people who buy into the M$ justify it on the consistency of supply where
recent history would indicate the opposite
What I love about OS dev products is changes are total demand driven
with no subtext
n
David Brennan wrote:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">It is a danger with .NET. Compare with Internet Explorer. IE got mega
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->bucks
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">thrown at it by Microsoft because they perceived a threat that Netscape
could eventually provide an alternative to the Windows platform by having
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->a
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">multi-platform rich interface web browser.
Once Microsoft had strangled Netscape and ensure market dominance they
suddenly killed IE development. Almost all of the new technologies which
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->had
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">been under development for a richer browser environment were effectively
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->put
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">on hold at the same time... which was probably Microsoft's plan from the
start.
I see some parallels here. Java was getting too much popularity behind it
and it's cross platform nature and rich interface potential was/is a
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->serious
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">threat. So .NET is unleashed upon the world.
The difference is that Java isn't likely to die like Netscape did. So
Microsoft may end up having to push .NET as their long term solution
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->rather
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">than just using it for a single battle. Only time will tell I guess.
David.-----Original Message-----
From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</A>]
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->On
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Friday, 15 July 2005 1:06 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Skill shortage?
RE:
</PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">There are some big shops still using as far as I can tell, but a lot have
moved to .NET over the last 2 years.
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap="">Now that M$ have sucessfully used .net to restrict Java in the
middleware area, will they focus on the UI again and push XAML
In which case these guys will have to move again
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bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah,
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bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah..
</PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
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