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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Glad to hear you got it working –
thanks for letting us know what the <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> 6
unit names are too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:windowtext'> delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Phil Middlemiss<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 9 June 2005 1:27
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NZ
Borland Developers Group - <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] descending from
TWebModule</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hurrah!<br>
<br>
Thanks David, slightly different units but the methodology was the same. There
is no DmDesigner in the Delphi6 installation. I made a design time only package
and added designide.dcp which I assumed is the Delphi6 equivalent to DsnIDE50
(there was no DsnIDE60) and it now compiles in DesignEditors without any
problems. The TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule class is wrapped up in designide
in a contained unit called DMForm.<br>
<br>
It works now anyway. Thanks for your help.<br>
Phil.<br>
<br>
David Brennan wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It was actually commented in the uses
clause of my sample: <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>uses<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'> Classes,
DsgnIntf,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>
DmDesigner, // Contains TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'> WctlForm;
// Contains TWinControlCustomModule<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So it should be in DmDesigner, but
I’m using <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place>
5 and it is possible it has been moved. You won’t have source .pas files
for these unfortunately. You also won’t be able to directly recompile
them. Our unit which registers these designers for our custom TDbbForm,
TDbbDataModule etc is in a separate design time only package which uses the
DsnIDE50 package which contains the compiled code for the design units like
DmDesigner. I assume the <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place>
6 package would be called DsnIDE60 (or similar) but simply creating a package
with your register unit and compiling it should bring up a dialog to
automatically add the required packages.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As for what they are, yes, I believe the
CustomModules and their associated objects/units are all about bringing up the
design time representation of the Form/DataModule/Frame which is where you drag
components around and set their properties. If you don’t register a
CustomModule then the design time representation doesn’t work properly
– for example any properties you have added won’t appear in the
object inspector.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Disclaimer: Things might be slightly
different in <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place>
6 with this stuff.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>David.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>
[<a href="mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz">mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Phil Middlemiss<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:28
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName u4:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">NZ Borland Developers Group - <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place>
List</st1:PersonName></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [DUG] descending from
TWebModule</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dave, I can't find TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule
anywhere - which unit is it in? I'm using <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place> 6 which has DesignIntf, not DsgnIntf.<br>
<br>
There is a TCustomModule in DesignEditors.pas, but if I try to use that then
DesignEditors wont compile since it requires Proxies.pas which is not provided,
and there is no dcu provided for DesignEditors either.<br>
I'm not very familiar with the ToolsAPI classes so the help is much
appreciated. BTW, what actually *is* the "designer"? I am assuming
that, for the TForm for example, it is the representation of the TForm that
lets you manipulate components on it and interact with the ObjectInspector - is
that correct?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Phil.<br>
<br>
David Brennan wrote: <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phil,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Neither do TForm or TDataModule - they aren't meant to. TCustomModule is (to<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>my knowledge) a helper class used by DsgnIntf to provide the design time<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>interface used for Forms, DataModules, Frames, etc. <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>TWebModule is a descendent of TDataModule. You should therefore be able to<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>use the standard TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule. That is:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterNoIcon([TPhilsWebModule]);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterCustomModule(TPhilsWebModule, TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>You could also make your own descendent of TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>if you wanted but I doubt you actually want to change the designer<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>behaviour.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>That should work fine unless TWebModules have a special designer (I don't<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>use them myself so I wouldn't know). If they do then you will need to try to<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>work out which unit contains the designer for TWebModule (which is a matter<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of guessing since <st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place></st1:place> doesn't include the source code for most of these<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>design interface units). <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Unless of course I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do?<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>David.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Unfortunately that didn't work since the TWebModule does not descend <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>from TCustomModule.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phil.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>David Brennan wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phil,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>....<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><u1:p></u1:p><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>procedure Register;<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>begin<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterNoIcon([TDbbDataModule]);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterCustomModule(TDbbDataModule, TDataModuleDesignerCustomModule);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterNoIcon([TDbbForm]);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterCustomModule(TDbbForm, TDbbFormCustomModule);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> // Note: DON'T call RegisterNoIcon for TDbbFrame. This will disable copy<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>and<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> // paste of TDbbFrame descendents and make it impossible to place a new<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> // TDbbFrame descendent on a form.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> RegisterCustomModule(TDbbFrame, TDbbFrameCustomModule);<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>end;<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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