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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=063182502-16032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Well, given that ECO II supports existing database schemas
(it has an O/R mapping mechanism now), pretty much ANYONE who wants to do ORM
would want to use it. Given that I simply would not write an application that
used any other mechanism for 95% of the application (it is simply too tedious),
ECO II seems like a good bet. The fact that you can override ECO and drop into
SQL for those situations where you need to control the SQL is great. You can
control pretty much every facet of ECO II now, which is much more flexible
than Bold or ECO I was. There are other O/R mapping products out there, but
ECO II beats them all hands down - I went to a .NET seminar showing a review of
the state of play in .NET about 4 months ago and they all are pitiful in
comparison. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=063182502-16032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>ORM doesn't suit everyone, clearly that is the case, but if
you are doing business applications - even if you are maintaining an existing
application by writing new modules, ECO II has a huge amount of offer in terms
of productivity and maintainability in code. The only thing it doesn't handle
very well is the situation where people use stored procedures to read and write
from their databases, and even then, you can get around that if you are
determined (but it may not be worth the effort). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>---</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard Vowles</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Borland Solutions Architect</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>phone: +64-9-9184573</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>mobile: +64-21-467747</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>email: <A
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>im:
msn: <A href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A>,
skype: rvowles</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>David
Brennan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 16 March 2005 3:20 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'NZ
Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [DUG] Special
offer for D2005 Architect upgrade<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can anyone explain (in
plain English preferably) why anyone would need/want the Architect version of
Delphi 2005 instead of the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Enterprise</st1:City></st1:place>
version?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From what I can see the
only extra functionality is ECO II. Is this correct or are there older Delphi 7
Architect features which aren’t in the Delphi 2005 <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Enterprise</st1:place></st1:City> version? And
what would ECO II <really> be used for?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks in
advance,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">David.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces@ns3.123.co.nz] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Richard Vowles<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, 16 March 2005 2:29
p.m.<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NZ Borland Developers
Group - <st1:place w:st="on">Delphi</st1:place> List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [DUG] Special offer for D2005
Architect upgrade</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
everyone,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is a special offer on at the
moment, we accidently shipped 25 copies of D2005 Architect to a customer (wrong
version) and rather than send them back to Singapore, they are being offered
here for $2500 each (instead of the normal $3500) - so if you were thinking of
upgrading your D2005 to Enterprise or Architect, now is a good time. They have
been able to keep the offer open until the end of next week.
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you are interested, phone either
04-9136060 or 09-3600231 and ask to speak to Shane Varcoe. Or email him on <A
href="mailto:shane.varcoe@borland.com">shane.varcoe@borland.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Oh, and patch #2 is out! If you
didn't already know.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">---</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard
Vowles</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Borland Solutions
Architect</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">phone:
+64-9-9184573</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">mobile:
+64-21-467747</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">email: <A
href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">im:
msn: <A href="mailto:richard.vowles@borland.com">richard.vowles@borland.com</A>,
skype: rvowles</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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