[DUG] Delphi 10.2 Tokyo ready for production?

[David Brennan]

Hi,

We've been gradually pulling ourselves up to the latest versions over the
last few years and have reached Berlin 10.1. It's behaving pretty well on
our software which is quite large and complex. I get less complaints about
Berlin than I did any earlier version. In general I agree that a
subscription makes sense, anyone who is running their business on Delphi
should not begrudge the subscription amount and once you get up to date
going to each new version is not too hard.

Having said that, the reason we aren't on Tokyo is that Andy Hausladen
stopped producing IDEFixPack from Tokyo onwards (he did recompile it for
Tokyo but something had changed and he doesn’t own a copy of Tokyo so he
didn't go any further - why Embarcadero hadn't just given him a free
subscription by then is totally beyond me). We need IDEFixPack to make our
compilation time at all reasonable - with IDEFixPack a full build is around
2 minutes, without it we were getting up to 20 or 30 minutes. We've done
some work to reduce a few unnecessary cyclic dependencies since then but
even so there is no way we are willing to use a version of Delphi which
requires even twice the time Berlin does to compile. We've heard that
Embarcadero are going to build Andy's performance fixes into the next
version but we haven't seen any concrete evidence of this. Despite my advice
above this may lead to us cancelling our subscriptions, there is little
point in paying maintenance for new versions which we can't use.

Regards,
David.


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[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of David Moorhouse
Sent: Friday, 22 September 2017 8:37 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List <delphi at listserver.123.net.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi 10.2 Tokyo ready for production?

We've used it for in house apps deployed to enterprise users.  We've also
ported one of our apps to run under Mac OS - we used the Turbo Cocoa
framework which allowed us to reuse/write the logic in Delphi and the UI in
XCode.

I've created a simple web broker app and deployed in on a Linux server but
not in production yet.

David

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[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Jan Bakuwel
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2017 1:09 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: [DUG] Delphi 10.2 Tokyo ready for production?

Greetings all,

I know of course that by picking this subject I might draw some criticism as
it could be interpreted as implying that it might not be...

I'm a one-man band only occasionally getting to develop an in-house
application with Delphi, so even though I would love to do more Delphi
development, it simply is not financially feasible to continuously upgrade
not only Delphi but also the various 3rd party component suites.
I'm sure this sounds familiar to at least some of you.

I'm at that point (again) where I'm contemplating whether to request funding
to upgrade from XE5 to Tokyo 10.2 or not, just having spend a fair amount of
time debugging threading issues with the XE5 Firemonkey RTL (no fun and only
partly resolved).

Being able to target Linux server is something I've longed for a long time
so that would be a bonus. Independent reviews of Delphi releases are hard to
find (I wonder why) so I'll ask here if there's anyone here that would like
to share their experience using Tokyo 10.2 for real world applications
deployed on Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android and/or Linux server.

Jan



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