[DUG] Parse.com IPhone 3

[Leigh Wanstead]

Hi Willie,

Thanks

Do you know how to do it myself without apple service? Do I need to setup a
tcp server on the iphone/android and let remote server make a tcp
connection to iphone/android tcp server? How to solve that iphone/android
is in a local network without external ip address?

TIA
Leigh

On 21 May 2015 at 09:43, Willie <willie at compliant.co.nz> wrote:

> Umm I think the word “push” is the operative term here, the notification
> service on the phone is always listening via an IP connection it
> establishes with the APNs, so it only ever does anything when it receives a
> notification from the service, no “polling” is happening as far as I can
> tell.  F
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> rom some Apple documentation ….
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> Each device establishes an accredited and encrypted IP connection with the
> service and receives notifications over this persistent connection. If a
> notification for an app arrives when that app is not running, the device
> alerts the user that the app has data waiting for it.
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> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/RemoteNotificationsPG/Chapters/ApplePushService.html
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Leigh Wanstead
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 May 2015 9:04 a.m.
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> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Parse.com IPhone 3
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> Good morning Willie,
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> Thanks for the answer.
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> You can register your phone application against a push notification server
> so that it can receive notifications from that server, these appear on your
> phone in much the same way as email, What’s-App or Update notifications do.
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> Does that mean the ios app constantly pull from the server to check any
> new notification just like normal outlook check email server logic?
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> TIA
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> Leigh
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> On 20 May 2015 at 17:45, Willie <willie at compliant.co.nz> wrote:
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> Not sure exactly what you’re asking Leigh and how much I understand about
> it yet but basically ….
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> You can register your phone application against a push notification server
> so that it can receive notifications from that server, these appear on your
> phone in much the same way as email, What’s-App or Update notifications do.
> You use either the Apple Push Notification Service for IOS devices, or for
> Android devices the Google Cloud Messaging service as the delivery system
> (don’t know what windows devices do).
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> In my case I’m using PARSE.COM as the push notification server, it’s free
> and Delphi comes with a ready-made client component (I believe there are
> Delphi tutorials that show how to create your own servers if you want to go
> that way).  I created a “server application” on the  parse.com website,
> this is a pretty straight forward and generic process, and from this I get
> application keys that my phone app will use to subscribe to my PARSE.COM
> server app.
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> I generate notifications for my PARSE server to send out via a website
> (PHP) – PARSE give you a number of API SDK’s for different programming
> languages that make this process fairly easy to implement. Each client
> device that registers against a PARSE.COM server application ends up with
> a unique InstallationID and DeviceToken for that server app. When you want
> to send out a notification you can use either of these to target individual
> phones/tablets or you can target groups (PARSE call these channels).
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> Once installed and registered, your phone app doesn’t have to be running
> for the phone to receive notifications for it, they are received into the
> device’s notification centre, when you view them and click on one of your
> phone-apps notifications it will automatically open your app.
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> Having written all of that which probably doesn’t answer your question ….
> There are pretty good tutorials by Sarina on the Embarcadero site about
> building a phone app (IOS and Android) for both PARSE and Kinvey, she also
> takes you through the Notification Server setup. I recommend you go through
> those you’ll get a better understanding.
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Leigh Wanstead
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 20 May 2015 4:29 p.m.
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> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Parse.com IPhone 3
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> Can anyone explain to me the design of push logic? I am interested to know
> how it works?
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> TIA
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> Leigh
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> On 20 May 2015 at 15:21, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I will have to check when I get home, but sounds right.
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> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Willie <willie at compliant.co.nz> wrote:
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> I initially installed the 6.4 beta, had issues (can’t remember what
> exactly sorry Jeremy) so I installed 6.3.1 which seems to run OK against my
> XE8 development environment.  I see there is a 6.3.2 available now, is that
> the version you are talking about?
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Coulter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 20 May 2015 3:05 p.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Parse.com IPhone 3
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> while we are on the subject of IOS, I recently installed I assume its the
> latest, XCode and when I try to send an app to the IOS simulator, I just
> get a blank (black) screen.
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> Is this the "thing" that Apple broke? Do I need to go back a version of
> XCode?
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> Just wondering if anyone knows.....
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> Jeremy
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> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz>
> wrote:
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> From the iOS Getting Started Guide on Parse.COM:
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> Note that we support iOS 6.0 and higher.
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> The only iPhone 3 model that can be upgraded to iOS 6 is the 3GS.  If your
> iPhone 3 is some other, older model then it will not support iOS 6 and
> therefore is not supported by PARSE.COM either.
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> On 20 May 2015 at 14:12, Willie Juson <willie at compliant.co.nz> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I’m trying to develop an app that uses push notifications, specifically
> through the PARSE.COM service. I’m having trouble getting a test IPhone3
> to receive push notifications from my website. If I send the notification
> via the PARSE.COM website (using their “Send a push” function) the phone
> receives it OK, however the phone doesn’t acknowledge any I send from my
> website. I am targeting the phone using the devicetoken value as registered
> against the PARSE.COM service.  It works ok for IPhon4,5 and 6 and an
> IPad 3.
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> Has anyone had any experience with this?
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> TIA
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> Willie
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