[DUG] Elevate Web Builder

[Stefan Mueller]

$299 isn't much - but if you already open your wallet and get your credit
card out, why not go for something proper like Visual Studio rather than a
dead-end toy tool?

At least learning c#, asp.net mvc, css, html5, javascript are all
technologies that are very worthwhile to know and master and will probably
stay very worthwhile for decades to come. I doubt elevate web builder will
be around for that long. Choosing web builder just because you are familiar
with ObjectPascal might not be the best option long term (for your career,
for help from community, for maintaining your site for years to come, etc).

I suggest you make a list of cons/pros for your choices and decide yourself.


Regards,
Stefan



-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Ross Levis
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 7:23 PM
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder

I see, not too bad in price. Cheers.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:35 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder

It's under Orders from the EWB details page, sorry I was walking home &
couldn't check.

http://www.elevatesoft.com/products?action=order&category=ewb&type=web

$299. Quite reasonable.


Steve Peacocke
+64 220 612-611

> On 8/09/2014, at 5:25 pm, "Ross Levis" <ross at stationplaylist.com> wrote:
> 
> Where is that?  I can't find one on www.elevatesoft.com.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
> [mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Steve 
> Peacocke
> Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 5:17 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder
> 
> Just click on Buy Now :)
> 
> Steve Peacocke
> +64 220 612-611
> 
> 
>> On 8/09/2014, at 5:06 pm, "Ross Levis" <ross at stationplaylist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I take it from no price advertised on their website that it's expensive?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
>> [mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] On Behalf Of Steve 
>> Peacocke
>> Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 4:48 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder
>> 
>> Thanks for that feedback Steve. As you say, it doesn't yet have a 
>> large following but wondered if it was yet at the stare of actually 
>> being
> useful.
>> 
>> I read from your experience that it may be useful for small or simple 
>> web applications.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Steve Peacocke
>> +64 220 612-611
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/09/2014, at 4:40 pm, Stephen Barker <Steve at webdata.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well it's taking a bit longer than anticipated while I build up a 
>>> bit of a library that will be useful on subsequent projects.
>>> 
>>> The components in version 1 are primitive and not easily extendable. 
>>> The data grid is not flexible enough so I find I end up using panels 
>>> a lot to make dynamic lists of things. When version 2 finally 
>>> arrives it will be much better in this respect. Having said that if 
>>> you keep the UI simple it works well.
>>> 
>>> I don't use the EWB back end DB stuff as I have my own existing web 
>>> framework. I just pass JSON and other strings back and forth.
>>> 
>>> Debugging is a pain as with most web environments. At least having 
>>> the source in Object Pascal and familiar classes, forms and units is 
>>> a bonus. A lot of straight Delphi code can be used as is or with 
>>> minor tweaks. The IDE is simple and fast and works pretty well for a 
>>> version
>>> 1 product. It produces HTML5/JavaScript apps that seems to work well 
>>> across browsers, although I'm having some issues on IE, and also 
>>> Android, but that's no surprise. Overall it is fun and kinda reminds 
>>> me of Turbo Pascal 1.0, in that it is new, lightweight, efficient, 
>>> no
>> frills and just works.
>>> 
>>> There doesn't seem to be a huge following so far but those that are 
>>> using it seem to be happy with it by reading the forums.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Steve Peacocke [mailto:steve at peacocke.net]
>>>> Sent: Monday, 8 September 2014 12:33 p.m.
>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> So what are your thoughts on it?
>>>> 
>>>> Steve Peacocke
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/09/2014, at 12:25 pm, Stephen Barker
>>>>> <Steve at webdata.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been playing with it for a while, and using it on a
>>>> small project right
>>>>> now, but nothing released yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Steve Peacocke [mailto:steve at peacocke.net]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2014 1:15 p.m.
>>>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>>>>>> Subject: [DUG] Elevate Web Builder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd be keen to find out if anyone has any experience with Elevate 
>>>>>> Web Builder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.elevatesoft.com/products?category=ewb&type=web
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve Peacocke
>>>>>> +64 220 612-611
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