[DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington

[Jolyon Smith]

@ David : some good observations.  I would also add that skill scarcity
acts as a leveler of value.

When there are very few developers of *any* ability, the average or even
sub-average developer can command a high salary/hourly rate due to that
scarcity, independent of their abilities or skills, increasing their value
in the market relative to that of the above average/excellent developer who
will likely be an excellent developer, regardless of technology.

Maybe.  Certainly sounds plausible.  :)



On 3 July 2014 10:53, Leigh Wanstead <leigh.wanstead at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the issue in Auckland in general is an excellent developer cannot
> find salary more than NZ$120,000 a year. Have to switch to abap in sap to
> get that amounts of salary.
>
>
> On 3 July 2014 10:32, David Brennan <dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> I find that very interesting too.
>>
>>
>>
>> The difficult thing with software development is that differences in
>> capabilities are heavily accentuated. So a good developer is several times
>> better than an average developer while a below average developer is likely
>> to make a negative contribution to the project (in that you would be better
>> off replacing them with an empty seat). For reasonably complex programs the
>> minimum bar can be higher such that anyone less than a great developer is
>> going to be a mistake.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately statistics dictates that average and below average
>> developer are rather more common than great programmers… Maybe you got
>> lucky with great programmers in Switzerland and got unlucky with your
>> choices in NZ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [mailto:
>> delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Mueller
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 July 2014 10:07 a.m.
>>
>> *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>
>>
>>
>> As a Swiss Delphi Developer living in New Zealand I find that
>> interesting.
>>
>> Switzerland isn’t exactly at the top of my mind when I think about the
>> “value for bucks” for outsourcing work to – not because you don’t get the
>> quality, but because salaries there are almost twice what you would have to
>> pay here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> *Stefan Müller*,
>> R&D Manager
>>
>> *ORCL* *Toolbox Ltd.*
>> Auckland, New Zealand
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>> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [
>> mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
>> <delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Tony Blomfield
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 July 2014 9:29 a.m.
>> *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you would like to send the details to me I will have a chat with them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately we have had such a bad run with Kiwi Developers we moved
>> our R&D over to Switzerland last year where we get much more cost effective
>> results.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I’d like to assess the person myself to see if they are suitable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony Blomfield
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz [
>> mailto:delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz
>> <delphi-bounces at listserver.123.net.nz>] *On Behalf Of *Gary T. Benner
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 2:32 p.m.
>> *To:* delphi at delphi.org.nz
>> *Subject:* [DUG] Work Wanted in Wellington
>>
>>
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>> This just passed in if anyone can help:
>>
>> *Permanent Developer available in Wellington.*
>>
>> *Experienced Senior Delphi Developer looking for a permanent role in or
>> around Wellington. *
>>
>> *Open to remote work. Also open to learning a new language if needed.
>> Experienced in picking up code from others and looking after legacy systems
>> as well as new development.*
>>
>> *Also experienced as a Development Manager and Product Management.*
>>
>> Anyone with an opportunity can email me at gary at benner.co.nz and I'll
>> pass it on.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Gary
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