[DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

[Todd]

Hi Paul

I suggest you get Lazarus 9.30 from the repository and FPC 2.4.2+
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags

Todd.

> Experimented with it a while ago, and was surprised that I really
> could compile a simple project for both Windows and Linux form the
> same source, the Linux executable was very big, but there were no
> dependency/versioning issues.
> 
> I will have another look at it.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 18 March 2011 00:16, Todd <todd.martin.nz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Paul
>>
>> I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely
>> use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have
>> made some dramatic advances recently.
>>
>> Todd.
>>
>>> Thanks Joylon,
>>>
>>> >From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use
>>> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was
>>> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what you
>>> are saying its a bit more woolly than that.
>>>
>>> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi
>>> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up
>>> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience).
>>>
>>> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from Delphi. :)
>>>
>>> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator,
>>> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a
>>> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no
>>> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:
>>>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the ridiculous
>>>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit.
>>>>
>>>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and
>>>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is not
>>>> specified.  If you create some code that is used in an area of a web site
>>>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example...  does the income from
>>>> those donations count?
>>>>
>>>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and
>>>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from
>>>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of Delphi
>>>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue threshold
>>>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with any
>>>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask to see
>>>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is invalid
>>>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt be up
>>>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way around), but
>>>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following through
>>>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered adding it
>>>> to the license conditions in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a mistake
>>>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal of
>>>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any time
>>>> soon, if ever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
>>>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37
>>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out,
>>>>
>>>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could
>>>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were
>>>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix.
>>>> (Remembering  the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let you
>>>> add components.)
>>>>
>>>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we
>>>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin.nz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi Starter
>>>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves <Malcolm.Groves at embarcadero.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Malcolm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Malcolm Groves
>>>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan
>>>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies
>>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: +61 416 264 204
>>>>>>> Skype: malcolmgroves
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