[DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

[Todd]

Hi Paul

I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely
use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have
made some dramatic advances recently.

Todd.

> Thanks Joylon,
> 
>>From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use
> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was
> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what you
> are saying its a bit more woolly than that.
> 
> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi
> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up
> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience).
> 
> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from Delphi. :)
> 
> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator,
> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a
> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no
> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:
>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the ridiculous
>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit.
>>
>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and
>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is not
>> specified.  If you create some code that is used in an area of a web site
>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example...  does the income from
>> those donations count?
>>
>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and
>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from
>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of Delphi
>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue threshold
>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with any
>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation).
>>
>>
>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask to see
>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is invalid
>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt be up
>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way around), but
>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following through
>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered adding it
>> to the license conditions in the first place.
>>
>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a mistake
>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal of
>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any time
>> soon, if ever.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman
>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition
>>
>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out,
>>
>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could
>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were
>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix.
>> (Remembering  the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let you
>> add components.)
>>
>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we
>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin.nz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul
>>>
>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql.
>>>
>>> Todd.
>>>>
>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi Starter
>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please?
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves <Malcolm.Groves at embarcadero.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Malcolm
>>>>>
>>>>> Malcolm Groves
>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan
>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies
>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com
>>>>>
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