[DUG] Access to street maps

Mon Mar 14 10:27:15 NZDT 2011

I am guessing that the "certain turnover" you have in mind is significantly
higher than the US$1000 revenue limit attached to "Starter" Edition.

If you do the math on those license terms, basically Embarcadero want your
first $1000 revenue for themselves - they take a $200 down payment then grab
the next $800 as soon as you earn it, taking you over the $1000 limit
triggering the point at which you then have to pay to upgrade to "Pro",
which will cost you 100% of that $800 you just earned.

So you better be sure of earning not just that initial $1000, but AT LEAST
$270/annum thereafter if you want to stay current (that's what your "Revenue
Assurance", ahem, I mean "Software Assurance" will cost you).  Oops,
actually, you'll need to earn $1270, since when you upgrade from Starter to
Pro you'll need an additional $270 for your initial Revenue Assurance
payment.

Imho this renders Starter Edition dead in the water for the open
source/community/hobby developers that Embarcadero claim to be aiming it at,
for whom revenue is a potentially sporadic and uncertain thing.... someone
could *easily* "earn" over $1000 in the first year then significantly less
than that thereafter.  You don't get to deduct any costs from these revenue
numbers, so even if everything you "earn" from Delphi gets sunk into
hosting/traffic costs for providing your work to the community etc,
Embarcadero don't care - it's not profit they are counting, only
income/revenue.

If they absolutely had to have a revenue threshold (as some sort of
corporate/enterprise licensing woobie blanket) , it should have been nearer
$5K or even $10K.

imho

From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 09:42
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Access to street maps

I was the Product Marketing Manager for the company that, up to a few months
ago, used to supply the data to Google Maps.

Yes, essentially you are right and Google have not really worked very hard
at gaining revenue from that source, however that time will come and it is
important to know where you stand. Essentially, once you have turnover, then
you will need to purchase commercial licences but hopefully that will mean
that you are making lots of money. - Google will want some that money.

Actually, I think that its a great commercial licence. I only wish Delphi
and some toolmakers used the same licence. I'd love to develop stuff using,
for example the latest Delphi and Woll2Woll's InfoPower tools but I just
can't justify the licence cost until I get over a certain turnover, THEN I
could buy them.

Steve Peacocke
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:

bah.....just tick "I agree" dont read it....then you can plead
ignorance...hehehe

Yeah its only free if you are not going to make $$ from it and not going to
have 50,000 hits a day.....pretty much....but do read the terms just incase
;-)

Jeremy

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Steve Peacocke <steve at peacocke.net> wrote:

Caution - Please review the terms of service for yourself. It's only free in
certain circumstances.

Steve Peacocke
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com> wrote:

yip its free. You just have to register with them to access the Google API
docs etc. I dont know why. Maybe they just want to add your details to their
database :-)

Jeremy

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Leigh Wanstead <leigh.wanstead at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

May I ask to use google maps service is free?

TIA

Regards
Leigh

2011/3/14 Jeremy Coulter <jscoulter at gmail.com>

The other thing to note too if you want to use Google Maps to display
locations you need to signup and get a key that you need to pass through
each time you make a call which is fine if you will only be calling it from
the same location as it is tied to a Domain name.

We do exactly what you are doing to show surgery locations and various other
things at work. Took a bit of time to figure it out, but it works well.

Also something interesting I noticed the other day. My wife was using Wises
online the other day, I noticed they use Google now too...any why not ;-)

Jeremy

From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 07:28
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Access to street maps

Hi Mark,

You will need to change the address to the XY coordinates in order to
display the map. Yes, all is possible using JavaScript and the Google Maps
API.

http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html

and

http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/

Steve Peacocke
Mobile: 0220 612-611

Linkedin Professional Profile
<http://nz.linkedin.com/pub/steve-peacocke/1/a06/489> 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:22 AM, mark <wcsl at kol.co.nz> wrote:

I have a D2009 application which holds the addresses of employees and the
customers they service.

Is there a way that I can display a map with a selected address?

Ideally, I would also like to be able to get the distance between two
addresses.

I assume that this information is available from Google or Wises, but have
no idea how to go about accessing it. I'm guessing it will be a Web Service,
with which I have limited experience (I have an interface to one).

Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.

Mark 

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