[DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

Jolyon Smith jsmith at deltics.co.nz
Mon Mar 14 09:12:27 NZDT 2011


I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the ridiculous
$1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit.

Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and
apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is not
specified.  If you create some code that is used in an area of a web site
that also has a "donate" facility, for example...  does the income from
those donations count?

There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and
charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from
"income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of Delphi
Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue threshold
(unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with any
income/donation generating activity in your organisation).


You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask to see
your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is invalid
(tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt be up
to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way around), but
one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following through
and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered adding it
to the license conditions in the first place.

Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a mistake
(almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal of
DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any time
soon, if ever.



-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Paul A Norman
Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition

Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out,

... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could
use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were
limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix.
(Remembering  the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let you
add components.)

We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we
would fit under the $USD1000 at all times?

Paul

On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin.nz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql.
>
> Todd.
>>
>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi Starter
>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves <Malcolm.Groves at embarcadero.com>
wrote:
>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Malcolm
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