[DUG] Validating CDS files

Matthew Comb matt at ferndigital.com
Tue Jan 18 13:41:23 NZDT 2011


> You seem to be missing your own time and money factor... an hour spent
> analysing a problem can save days spent wasting time building the solution
> that was asked for but which ultimately wasn't needed.

You are making an assumption that the analysis has not been already done.

>
>
>    "Thats just rubbish"
>
> Such a comprehensively and well presented case is hard to argue with.  ;)

Fact often is.

>
>> In other words, when someone asks for a solution, rather than stating a
>> problem, the likelihood is that they are asking for the wrong solution
>> from the very start!
>
>   "Statistically probably correct more often than not, but still an
>    Arrogant assumption that the person is clueless / uninformed of
> possible
>    solutions."
>
> Any arrogance and any derogatory characterisation of people involved is
> entirely up to you.

Its not entirely up to me, its also up to those people who have emailed me
off list, because they've been flamed via the DUG list, and now no longer
feel comfortable posting. That is a sad state of affairs, and one that
certainly won't help (has helped) Delphi in NZ in the long run.

>
> As a simple statement of fact, people who are not adequately informed
> often
> make wrong choices.  Determining the level of informed-ness of someone
> that
> asks for a specific solution, rather than asking for help in *finding* a
> solution, is to my mind simply to be responsible and considerate.
>

You are assuming that people are not adequately informed.

>
>
>   "Its also arrogant to assume you know everything abou the motivation
>    And drivers as to why the person asked the question in the first
> place."
>
> You completely miss the point, which is to positively HELP someone, not
> demonstrate superior knowledge, not mock the person asking for the
> solution,
> but precisely to try to ensure that they GET a useful solution.

If someone asks you for help with their orange tree, its not an open
invitation for you to landscape their entire property.

>
> They asked for help after all.  Don't they deserve it?
>
>
>
>   "You should sell it to me because I asked to buy it."
>
> You are the one missing the point.  If I just want to make money out of
> people, then I certainly will be happy to sell you anything you wish to
> pay
> me for, and if you just want to spend your money take your custom to
> someone
> who is out to take it from you.  Noel Leeming will happily exchange your
> $$'s for Word 2010 without a murmur.
>
> But if you asked *ME* for a copy of Word 2010, it would surely be
> reasonable
> to think that you expected to benefit from my experience and knowledge in
> IT.  No ?

I didn't ask you specifically, and didn't ask about the areas you answered.

>
>
> I personally like to help people, not just exploit their
> gullibility/stupidity/ignorance.  That may be a financially rewarding
> approach but it's not good for the soul.
>

I couldn't agree with you more, but I do challenge your definition of the
word "help".

> :)
>
>
>
>   "Again you are incorrectly assuming that the person asking the question
>    Is a retard."
>
> All I can say is that you are the one that seems determined to make such
> derogatory assumptions/characterisations.
>
>
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