[DUG] Delphi Specials

Fri Oct 22 10:37:17 NZDT 2010

I was a user of D7 ent. and upgraded to RAD 2010 Pro using their promotion
offers (remark: thanks John Bird for your suggestion last year).  I am quite
happy with the upgrade price of US$400.  To be honest, with a great product
like Delphi, I don't mind paying few hunderds dollars every few years just
for upgrade.

However, I like to develop software for remote database connection.
Enterprise version is good but the price is too high for my freelance
projects.  What I like to see is a better pricing for these higher versions.
At the moment I just use third party components for remote DB connection,
which saves me some money and do the work well.

Also, it would be nice if there is TurboWhatever versions similar to the
free express versions that is offered by other competitor(s).  It will be
good for anyone (especailly students) to learn Delphi.  Academic market is
like growing trees.  If they don't do it now, they won't get fruits at the
end.  And the old trees will eventually gone (retired)!

Cheers
Rodney

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:12:43 +1300
From: Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials
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One other thing on the Windows vs Delphi ownership experience.

Since buying Delphi 7 a number of years ago, on a NUMBER of occasions when
installing it on those new PC?s of mine I have had difficulty activating and
thus being able to USE the software I bought.

In the same period I had such trouble only ONCE with my XP installs.

When we purchased our Delphi 2010 licenses last year we had a number of
difficulties activating the product EVEN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

And it?s not about not rewarding Embarcadero, it?s about Embarcadero not
offering a product that is worth the amount being asked for it.

At work my employer provides my license.  I can use that license at home
too.

But if I want to do my OWN work, not connected to my employer, I need to be
able to use my own license otherwise my employer may lay a claim the work I
produce, even though it is in my own time.  This is perhaps not as common in
NZ/AU, but it is quite common to have such claims made explicit in
employment contracts in the UK, for example.

And unless such claims on IP are explicitly relinquished in your contract,
your employer might yet have a legitimate claim to make, should it become in
their interests to do so.

But I do not need Architect or Enterprise for the sort of things I do in my
own time.

I do not even need Pro.

I do not want or need modelling or a large number of the refactorings (which
don?t work much of the time anyway).  I don?t even need DBExpress (ADO is
freely available) and I certainly don?t need BlackFish (does anyone even use
it).

So why can?t I buy a $200-$400 edition of Delphi that gives me what I want
and need?

Until I can, Embarcadero are simply losing that potential sale.

http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=533

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:42:35 +1300
From: "Cheng Wei (FMI)" <chengw at fmi.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials
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Hi,

Since buying Delphi 7 a number of years ago, on a NUMBER of occasions
when installing it on those new PC's of mine I have had difficulty
activating and thus being able to USE the software I bought.

In the same period I had such trouble only ONCE with my XP installs.

When we purchased our Delphi 2010 licenses last year we had a number of
difficulties activating the product EVEN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

When it comes to software registration with Borland/CodeGear/Embarcadero
we suffer a great deal, on a regular basis.

We purchase and supply InterBase to about 100 sites in NZ and AU. IB
registrations have ALWAYs been a "hit and miss" experience, you never
know whether it will be a success or a failure. We feel very much let
down by Embarcadero.

Thanks

Cheng

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	From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith
	Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 9:13 a.m.
	To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
	Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

	One other thing on the Windows vs Delphi ownership experience.

	Since buying Delphi 7 a number of years ago, on a NUMBER of
occasions when installing it on those new PC's of mine I have had
difficulty activating and thus being able to USE the software I bought.

	In the same period I had such trouble only ONCE with my XP
installs.

	When we purchased our Delphi 2010 licenses last year we had a
number of difficulties activating the product EVEN FOR THE FIRST TIME.

	And it's not about not rewarding Embarcadero, it's about
Embarcadero not offering a product that is worth the amount being asked
for it.

	At work my employer provides my license.  I can use that license
at home too.

	But if I want to do my OWN work, not connected to my employer, I
need to be able to use my own license otherwise my employer may lay a
claim the work I produce, even though it is in my own time.  This is
perhaps not as common in NZ/AU, but it is quite common to have such
claims made explicit in employment contracts in the UK, for example.

	And unless such claims on IP are explicitly relinquished in your
contract, your employer might yet have a legitimate claim to make,
should it become in their interests to do so.

	But I do not need Architect or Enterprise for the sort of things
I do in my own time.

	I do not even need Pro.

	I do not want or need modelling or a large number of the
refactorings (which don't work much of the time anyway).  I don't even
need DBExpress (ADO is freely available) and I certainly don't need
BlackFish (does anyone even use it).

	So why can't I buy a $200-$400 edition of Delphi that gives me
what I want and need?

	Until I can, Embarcadero are simply losing that potential sale.

	http://www.deltics.co.nz/blog/?p=533

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