[DUG] Delphi Specials
Jolyon Smith
jsmith at deltics.co.nz
Thu Oct 21 17:07:04 NZDT 2010
Ø Well thats nuts.
Which neatly described what followed, rather than what was being replied to.... ;)
> you would have to be nuts to want to work in D5 if you spend any time programming.
I suggest that is not for you to say on behalf of others. You are free to have that view for yourself, but if a version of software works well enough for someone, suggesting that they should pay a not insignificant amount of money and incur the productivity penalty of having to familiarise with a significantly different version of the product is presumptive at best and nonsense at worst.
Ø Pro upgrades are only around 600-700 at the moment anyway
Nope. The poster is deemed unclean and not worthy of upgrade pricing anymore. New user license required.
I believe this is what Embarcadero are currently calling their “Bog Off” promotion – Oh no, wait, that’s “BOGOF - Buy One Get One Free”, not “you haven’t kept upgrading so you can BOG OFF and use Visual Studio instead for all we care”.
> pro includes pretty much all that was in Enterprise back in D5 days....
Well, you still can’t connect to remote servers using the proprietary DB API. Doesn’t stop you using ADO of course, which makes the restriction even more ridiculous imho.
And let’s think about this for a minute... you are suggesting that a version of the software which contains a bunch of stuff that wasn’t considered necessary for a particular user back when they bought their licenses and suggesting that getting those undesired/unnecessary features is a good reason to pay through the nose to get current now?
> for instance Window 2000 XP (pre SP2) are now out of support
EXCUSE ME?
Every version of Delphi goes “out of support”, in those terms, as soon as the next version is released. Windows 2000/XP don’t stop working when their support period ends either, just like Delphi (assuming there is still someone servicing product activation requests, for the more recent versions), but you DO still keep getting updates and fixes for MS products, LONG after their replacement products have been introduced.
Compare and contrast THAT with Delphi.
Just my 0,02
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