[DUG] Company closing

Alister Christie alister at salespartner.co.nz
Mon Nov 29 12:15:41 NZDT 2010


I've long given up on best, if it works and is readable then I move on - 
I should also add that it has tests, but I'm not that disciplined as yet.

Alister Christie
Computers for People
Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
http://www.salespartner.co.nz
PO Box 13085
Johnsonville
Wellington


On 29/11/2010 11:42 a.m., Jolyon Smith wrote:
> And more importantly, the crucial thing is knowing which is the right/best
> one to use for any particular problem at hand.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
> Behalf Of Alister Christie
> Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 11:27
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Company closing
>
>   From my experience, learning a new language is fairly easy and straight
> forward, but the libraries are just so huge these days, it's impossible
> to learn even a small fraction in a reasonable amount of time.
>
> For instance in Delphi - if you wanted some sort of collection of
> strings.  If you are just using object pascal you could use an array or
> write your own class (or linked list of Records at a stretch).  Add all
> the standard libraries and you could use a TStringList, TList, TStack,
> some sort of generic collection (list, stack, queue, hash) and probably
> a zillion of other things.
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
> On 29/11/2010 10:37 a.m., Berend de Boer wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alistair" == Alistair Ward<award at forum8.co.nz>   writes:
>>       Alistair>   I'm firmly of the belief that for a good developer the
>>       Alistair>   toolset being used is irrelevant. A person with the
>>       Alistair>   right background and fundamental skills can pick up any
>>       Alistair>   programming language/environment in relatively short
>>       Alistair>   order.
>>
>> I think that is quite misguided. To become productive in a new
>> environment, takes years. It does not matter how good you think you
>> are.
>>
>> To be productive in an environment you simply need to know a lot of
>> little things. That takes time.
>>
>> If you switch to an entirely different platform, 1-tier to REST for
>> example, you might never truly
>> make it.
>>
>>
>>       Alistair>   I picked up Delphi (v2) very quickly, coming from a
>>       Alistair>   previous background of C and C++, although I had done a
>>       Alistair>   lot of Pascal at university. I have to say that I'm not
>>       Alistair>   looking forward to going back to curly braces...
>>
>> But now we're talking about languages that are basically the same with
>> a minor difference in syntax. The C++/Delpi/VB switch might be as you
>> describe, switching to PHP + the entire web development stack takes
>> much longer.
>>
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