[DUG] Delphi on Windows Mobile

[Colin Johnsun]

I guess if you are not planning to market your iPhone app to the wider
community via the App Store and just building an enterprise application that
is used specifically within a business, then you may be able to getaway with
developing with Monotouch.

I might just add that I am just speculating and have no real idea as to
whether the gatekeepers at Apple will or wont stop this kind of development
as well.

Regards,
Colin

On 5 May 2010 14:05, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:

> > I'm not sure that the new licensing is an issue for monotouch as they
> > support iPhoneOS 4 presently - I think the licensing is more aimed at
> > Adobe (I'm not sure why Apple hates flash sooooo much).  But I'm sure
> > others on this list know more about this than I.
>
>
> The language in the license quite clearly and obviously applies equally to
> MonoTouch.
>
> Novell would have been working on 4.0 support long before the license terms
> were changed.  So of course they announced support for it, they weren't
> about to throw all that work away.  And MonotTouch can support OS 4.0
> without violating the license.  People can even still use it to develop
> apps
> without violating the license.  The license only affects whether those apps
> will then be permitted access to the store.
>
> It's like the landlord in your pub... he will happily sell you beer.  If on
> the way home you then get pulled over and arrested for drunk driving, well,
> that's between you and the law, nothing to do with the landlord.  (don't
> pull too closely at that analogy... landlords typically are limited by the
> law in some respects, e.g. to not serve intoxicated persons, but someone
> doesn't have to be intoxicated to be over the drink drive limit).
>
>
> But whole debacle is a bit pointless.
>
> The license also already gave Apple the right to deny access to/withdraw
> any
> app from the store without reason.  By introducing this language I think
> they are covering their legal backsides against a potential law suit from
> someone who feels their development language/tool/framework is being
> specifically and unfairly targeted by Apple.
>
> This language gives them plausible cause:  "The license clearly states...
> etc etc, so we're sorry, but all those applications written in/for your
> product willfully violated those terms. You knew that when you started
> developing/selling/marketing your product to developers".
>
>
> Presently they have Adobe Flash in the public gun-sights - the MonoTouch
> guys aren't being targeted at present (but neither have Apple said that
> MonoTouch escapes being covered by the license language).
>
> The bottom line is that anyone using MonoTouch to deploy code written in
> Delphi Prism, C# or any language other than those specifically allowed in
> the license for iPhone/iPad cannot now complain in the future if they have
> their app pulled/denied access to the store on the basis of it being a
> MonoTouch app.
>
> They couldn't complain before either of course, but a single developer
> irked
> at not being allowed to distribute his app isn't who the license is aimed
> at... it's aimed at the legal departments of the
> language/tool/framework/runtime vendors that those developers might choose
> to use.
>
>
> Just my 0.02
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-
> > bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 3:28 p.m.
> > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi on Windows Mobile
> >
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