[DUG] Google Phone

Mon Jan 18 10:15:17 NZDT 2010

Hi Jolyon,

Thanks for the information. I know about the Vodafone htc magic. But it is not the phone sold in usa by Google which get more powerful cpu. I don't want a term contract which is expensive for me. Anyway to buy a Google phone sold by Google in usa reasonably priced?

Have a nice day

Regards
Leigh

-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith
Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:58 a.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: Re: [DUG] Google Phone

That all depends what you mean by "reasonable".

Vodafone offer the HTC handset for as little as "FREE".  "Free" in this case
means signing up for 24 months at $80/mth, so that's $2000 (give or take) in
real money, albeit on an installment plan.

A handset only deal will set you back $750.

I was nearly tempted by the "installment plan" but fortunately (for me) the
Vodafone rep was able to demonstrate the device as she herself had one.  As
a result I quickly changed my mind.  The on-screen keyboard (it has no
physical keyboard at all) was just too small for my fingers and didn't have
cursor keys that I (or she) could find.

So, e.g. when entering a txt message, if you make a mistake the only way to
position the cursor on the offending text is to try to hit exactly the right
spot in the txt with your finger (or backspace ALL text back to it) .. you
can't simply cursor back over/thru the txt!!!

And unless you have a child's fingers and prod the letter out *real*
carefully (i.e. slowly), you will make mistakes with the tiny virtual
keyboard.  Guaranteed.

There is no stylus.

"Way cool" doesn't outweigh simple practicality in my book.

-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead
Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:40 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?

May I ask how to get one Google phone reasonably priced in New Zealand?

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From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Colin Fraser
Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 5:00 p.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?

> >>  But Google's phone just begin entering into the market.

The 'Google Phone' has been around for quite a while now (I have had one for
about a year... has not really been pushed in New Zealand)... Android is the
Google OS, and quite a few companies make 'Google' or Android phones, eg,
HTC (made the first released one, and also make the latest that Google is
now selling directly), Samsung, Motorola and others I can't recall also make
and sell them.

The media hype seemed to peek because Google is selling the latest (running
Android 2.1 I think) directly... not sure why the hype, but I am sure it is
good for the phone and for Google...

In terms of Development, Android is Java based (mainly), and comes with a
few plugins for Eclipse to make things more easy... all free.

iPhone has an XCode development environment, not to familiar with it...

Regards
Colin

The latest news is that Google are actually selling one now,

On 15/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Leigh Wanstead wrote:

> May I ask what is the future between apple's iphone or Google's phone?
>
> I saw that Google phone got Linux behind and no rip off fee from Apple
which is great. But Google's phone just begin entering into the market.
>
> Have a nice day
>
> Regards
> Leigh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
On Behalf Of Jeremy North
> Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 4:09 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
>
> Pro upgrade is $519 (AUD) for Delphi 2010.
>
> Just because something is "free" doesn't make it a good "investment".
>
> The apple tools are way behind other IDE's for usability and
functionality.
>
> I suggest you download them and try them for yourself.
>
> Oh, you'll need apple hardware as well to do that ;-)
>
> I'm not a fan of OSX - it feels like I'm being forced to use a
> computer with one arm tied behind my back and continually trying to
> swat flies and work with the free arm...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz>
wrote:
>>> You can't deploy to the iPhone platform unless you pay.
>>
>> $99 / $299
>>
>> If there were a version of Delphi at those price points I would be very
>> happy.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> And unless I'm mistaken, those costs apply no matter whose tools you are
>> using to create the software.
>>
>> $2000+ for Embarcadero Delphi 20XX for iPhone may even include that $99
>> cost, but it's still $2000+ vs $99 and free tools.
>>
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