[DUG] Google Phone

[Kyley Harris]

>>Vodafone offer the HTC handset for as little as "FREE".  "Free" in this
case
>>means signing up for 24 months at $80/mth, so that's $2000 (give or take)
in
>>real money, albeit on an installment plan.

$2000 if you ignore the $2000 worth of internet and phone service which
still costs $2000 even if you dont get the phone. so, I'd take that as an
opportunity cost at worst if you didn't need a phone plan. But then what
point is a phone without the plan to test it on.

My father has the google phone, I have the 3g iphone. In almost all ways I
can imagine the iphone leaves it for dead. Vodafone is providing a cut back
OS with limited features that sucks. In trying to upgrade to one of the open
versions of the OS he keeps stuffing his phone up.

I've bought many Apps for the new iphone and never paid more than $8 for
products of excellent quality including some very cool games that would cost
$60+ on a PSP.

I'd also say that Google Maps on the iPhone works better than google maps on
the Google phone.. (Better interface)

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz> wrote:

> That all depends what you mean by "reasonable".
>
> Vodafone offer the HTC handset for as little as "FREE".  "Free" in this
> case
> means signing up for 24 months at $80/mth, so that's $2000 (give or take)
> in
> real money, albeit on an installment plan.
>
> A handset only deal will set you back $750.
>
> I was nearly tempted by the "installment plan" but fortunately (for me) the
> Vodafone rep was able to demonstrate the device as she herself had one.  As
> a result I quickly changed my mind.  The on-screen keyboard (it has no
> physical keyboard at all) was just too small for my fingers and didn't have
> cursor keys that I (or she) could find.
>
> So, e.g. when entering a txt message, if you make a mistake the only way to
> position the cursor on the offending text is to try to hit exactly the
> right
> spot in the txt with your finger (or backspace ALL text back to it) .. you
> can't simply cursor back over/thru the txt!!!
>
> And unless you have a child's fingers and prod the letter out *real*
> carefully (i.e. slowly), you will make mistakes with the tiny virtual
> keyboard.  Guaranteed.
>
> There is no stylus.
>
>
> "Way cool" doesn't outweigh simple practicality in my book.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> On
> Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead
> Sent: Monday, 18 January 2010 9:40 a.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
>
> May I ask how to get one Google phone reasonably priced in New Zealand?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> On
> Behalf Of Colin Fraser
> Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 5:00 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
>
>
> > >>  But Google's phone just begin entering into the market.
>
> The 'Google Phone' has been around for quite a while now (I have had one
> for
> about a year... has not really been pushed in New Zealand)... Android is
> the
> Google OS, and quite a few companies make 'Google' or Android phones, eg,
> HTC (made the first released one, and also make the latest that Google is
> now selling directly), Samsung, Motorola and others I can't recall also
> make
> and sell them.
>
> The media hype seemed to peek because Google is selling the latest (running
> Android 2.1 I think) directly... not sure why the hype, but I am sure it is
> good for the phone and for Google...
>
> In terms of Development, Android is Java based (mainly), and comes with a
> few plugins for Eclipse to make things more easy... all free.
>
> iPhone has an XCode development environment, not to familiar with it...
>
> Regards
> Colin
>
>
> The latest news is that Google are actually selling one now,
>
> On 15/01/2010, at 4:31 PM, Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>
> > May I ask what is the future between apple's iphone or Google's phone?
> >
> > I saw that Google phone got Linux behind and no rip off fee from Apple
> which is great. But Google's phone just begin entering into the market.
> >
> > Have a nice day
> >
> > Regards
> > Leigh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> On Behalf Of Jeremy North
> > Sent: Friday, 15 January 2010 4:09 p.m.
> > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > Subject: Re: [DUG] What is the future for Delphi programmer?
> >
> > Pro upgrade is $519 (AUD) for Delphi 2010.
> >
> > Just because something is "free" doesn't make it a good "investment".
> >
> > The apple tools are way behind other IDE's for usability and
> functionality.
> >
> > I suggest you download them and try them for yourself.
> >
> > Oh, you'll need apple hardware as well to do that ;-)
> >
> > I'm not a fan of OSX - it feels like I'm being forced to use a
> > computer with one arm tied behind my back and continually trying to
> > swat flies and work with the free arm...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsmith at deltics.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >>> You can't deploy to the iPhone platform unless you pay.
> >>
> >> $99 / $299
> >>
> >> If there were a version of Delphi at those price points I would be very
> >> happy.
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> And unless I'm mistaken, those costs apply no matter whose tools you are
> >> using to create the software.
> >>
> >> $2000+ for Embarcadero Delphi 20XX for iPhone may even include that $99
> >> cost, but it's still $2000+ vs $99 and free tools.
> >>
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