[DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

[Colin Fraser]

To add to the language debate...

We are now doing more Java stuff... Have to say I enjoy the IDE  
(Eclipse) more than Delphi's (2007), and I just seem to 'like' the  
language better.

Have done a couple of small web related things, and also a couple of  
small (just to try it out) applications using SWT (this is the  
framework that Eclipse is built on, it uses native controls on Mac,  
Windows and Linux, making the applications look more native on each  
platform... and they do).

Definitely a reasonable learning curve (and I have still lots to  
learn... just getting started really), and the applications are  
reasonably trivial, but it has worked OK so far.

The Java run time environment also seems a fair bit lighter than  
the .net frameworks... though I have no idea on the provided total  
functionality of each, and for the applications I am involved with, I  
don't need to worry about deployment so much anyway.

Just thought I would through another language in there :-) (and hey, I  
was happy to see the website listed in the "delphi vs java vs .net vs  
prism vs vs vs vs" post yesterday having java on top of the list :-)  
(flame bait, maybe :-)

Regards
Colin



On 18/09/2009, at 11:09 AM, John Bird wrote:

> Seeing we are talking about the merits of .Net and garbage  
> collection - let
> me re-raise my question which no-one answered yet:
>
> The D2007 IDE uses quite a bit of .Net code.  I find it is  
> consistently the
> last thing to respond on Vista after a log-in or resume - 20-30+  
> seconds of
> spinning wheel before the code window repaints.   Is this .net garbage
> collection going on?  is it .Net overhead?  or is it something else?
>
> Some here  know a lot about the tech specs of the IDE - any comments?
>
> Personally I will be more impressed by .net once MS start using it
> themselves for their core products.   Vista does not come with .net
> framework installed - the D2007 installer installed it, and almost  
> none of
> Windows or MS Office 2007 (which was also pre-installed when I got  
> the PC)
> use it hence a default Vista + Office does not have the framework.
>
> John
>
>
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