[DUG] A change in upgrade policy coming from Embarcadero

[Alister Christie]

What Borland did to Delphi is really rather sad.  And now Borland is 
owned by some company that I'd never heard of until the purchase 
(actually I heard about it on the StackOverflow podcast - even then I 
thought it was Joel talking crap like he often does)
http://www.microfocus.com/Solutions/TestingASQ/WelcomeBorlandCustomers/PressRelease.asp
I don't know why Borland didn't keep doing what it did successfully for 
so many years.

Embaradero seem to be doing a pretty good job with Delphi - and 
admittedly I hadn't heard of them either until they acquired CodeGear.  
However I can't see them gaining significant market share from Micro$oft 
in the developer tools market, it would be nice if they did though.

Alister Christie
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Steve Peacocke wrote:
> Agreed. Borland went away from its core competency to enter into a 
> market it was ill prepared for. It tried to recoup some of the costs 
> and losses by upping the cost of the core developer's tool (Delphi) 
> until it cost the value greater than the cost of a good second hand car.
>
> It's total focus away from the developer and it's huge cost of delphi 
> meant that most NZ companies went away from Delphi to another tool 
> that offered more, easier and cheaper upgrades. Boreland effectively 
> killed the cash-cow through over-excessive milking.
>
> Thankfully they are looking good to recover slightly, although 
> regaining the customer base they had previously is probably now out of 
> their range.
>
> Steve Peacocke
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Kyley Harris 
> <Kyley at harrissoftware.com <mailto:Kyley at harrissoftware.com>> wrote:
>
>     "Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE
>     that could be
>     used forever.."
>
>     No.. they went broke spending tons of money buying 3rd party tools
>     and trying to sell them for a fortune to recoup the buy cost.. at
>     the same time they damn near abandoned the concept of putting out
>     and supporting the Core Development tools and focused on buggy
>     integration tools with all the extras they purchased..
>
>     They were doing great as a company for Programmers.. Tried to
>     become a company for lifecycle development and stuffed up.
>
>     Still.. with Delphi 2007 I've been quite happy.
>
>     On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:44 PM, John Bird
>     <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz <mailto:johnkbird at paradise.net.nz>> wrote:
>
>         I think in general the upgrade policy has been quite generous,
>         as others say
>         other companies are much worse.
>
>         Take Microsoft -  As a Vista user of 1 year I get no reduced
>         price upgrade
>         to Windows 7.  Vista is V6.0, Windows 7 internally is ictually
>         Windows 6.1
>         and could be argued is not even a new version at all - they
>         are as similar
>         as Windows 2000 (V5.0) and Windows XP (V5.1) were.
>
>         D2007 versus 7 - have to say the D2007 use of IDE screen is a
>         lot better for
>         a single screen on a laptop.  And like others I have the D7
>         help loaded -
>         actually the D2007 help is not so bad, just slow at times.
>
>         Really one reason Borland went broke is that they made an IDE
>         that could be
>         used forever..
>
>         John
>
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