[DUG] BDS2006 or Rad 2007 & the web

[Alister Christie]

You might want to have a look at some of the Delphi videos available
http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/Delphi_Videos
I seem to remember there being a couple on Intraweb / VCL for the web.

Alister Christie
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Charlie wrote:
>
> Thanks Sean. I guess I need to clarify at least one of my questions.
>
> 1) I essentially have no database experience except for dBase, Paradox 
> and Access. If I eventually want to have this application so that 
> customers could enter orders on the web what do you recommend I 
> consider for a database
>
> Not those!
>
> Sql Server Express (free for the db size you are likely to need, use 
> the dbGo components that come with Delphi) or Firebird. I use SQL 
> server for nearly everything.
>
> I have worked some with Sql Server 2005 – I’m pretty sure it is the 
> “free” version. Will look at that option again.
>
> What are your feelings about MySql?
>
> 2) My customer would like for his customers to be able to access the 
> application to determine the status of their orders. What have you 
> found that enables concurrent users to do this?
>
> Not quite sure what you mean here. Web apps are concurrent by nature. 
> Desktop apps on different computers can both access the db at the same 
> time providing you have a suitable database.
>
> Here I mean having customers access the Win32 application by logging 
> into the company’s server upon which (some how) a query would be run 
> to retrieve and display open orders for that customer that logged in. 
> By concurrent I mean that multiple external customers would be able to 
> access a view of their open orders at the same time.
>
> 3) Has anyone been able to take a Win32 application and make in work 
> as a web application? Where do I start? What version of Delphi do I 
> use? What database? Was the conversion process very time consuming and 
> costly?
>
> It depends on how well you wrote the original app J. If all the data 
> access is done on datamodules, then it is much easier than if the data 
> access components are on forms. Either way, you are starting a new 
> application and trying to reuse as much as possible rather than 
> converting the original app.
>
> Unfortunately datamodules were not used with the original application 
> so the data access components are on the forms. While it wouldn’t be a 
> hard thing to change it certainly will be time intensive to move the 
> components to a data module or reassign a new database to all of those 
> components. Then of course if I move to ADO components then that’ll be 
> challenging I’m sure. Really don’t have any idea how to pursue that 
> conversion; that is to ADO.
>
> 4) I have tried viewing and studying the demos/examples that came with 
> my versions of Delphi to learn how to create a web application. I 
> guess I’m dense but I’m having a difficult time with these. A few 
> months ago I had the opportunity to work some with Visual Studio. I 
> found tons of tutorial videos and examples that help tremendously with 
> the learning curve. I haven’t found that with the Delphi examples that 
> I have. Does anyone have any recommendations?
>
> Look at Intraweb aka VCL for the web. It is the easiest for what you 
> want to do. You will still need to recreate the ui, but you may be 
> able to keep the data modules. Use the latest version of Delphi that 
> you can.
>
> I’ll look at the costs of Delphi 2009/2010 as well as any updating of 
> the Intraweb VCL. If there is some way to “keep the underlying logic” 
> then recreating the UI doesn’t stress me too much. But then as I said, 
> I a fledgling Delphi programmer.
>
> 5) All I am is a guy that always wanted to be a programmer but never 
> really had the opportunity to program day in and day out. So I’m 
> always in these huge learning curves. I sincerely appreciate any 
> suggestions you can give me.
>
> Thank you so much,
>
> Charlie
>
> *Charlie Kerscher*
>
> *'A Magisterium Faithful Catholic'*
>
> *Williamson GA*
>
> *Cell: 770.468.1757*
>
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