[DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

[Jolyon Smith]

Interesting.  I have to say that the desktop/window manager/taskbar changes
(I'd call them improvements but not everyone would agree...) were compelling
for me.

At first I missed "Quick Launch", until I learned about "Pinning" both to
the bar itself and to the start menu and realised that Quick Launch was
quite simply redundant.  Similarly I initially missed the Programs "menu",
until I learned that typing into the "Run" box was typically quicker anyway
(Ctrl-Esc: "Word" [CR] and boof!  There's MS Word).

Similarly the amount of "noise" you can remove from the notification area
(without losing essential feedback).

Having the Windows 7 "shell" on my home PC for only a short time, when I
went back to Vista on my laptop I found myself pining for the Windows 7 bar.

So Windows 7 went on the laptop too (I dunno if that was an "OEM Windows"
per se, but it was pre-installed on a brand new - 3 mths ago - Acer machine.
Everything installed and worked without a hitch).



-----Original Message-----
From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Jeremy North
Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 12:25
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] to Vista 64bit or not?

I've been using Windows 7 RC1 for a while doing quite a bit of testing
on it. This is just a spare machine I picked up for $100. A pentium 4
2GHz with 768 meg of ram. It runs really well on that hardware. I must
admit, I'm not a new fan of the task bar but most things are quite
similar visually.

I prefer vista, but the performance improvements that Win7 has almost
make it impossible to ignore (if you are currently running vista).

Delphi runs quite well on it as well. Although I haven't tried Delphi
7 (yuck :p)

cheers,
Jeremy

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:14 AM, John Bird<johnkbird at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> Any comments from those with Windows 7 whether its worth thinking of
> upgrading a Sony Vaio with Vista (32 bit Home premium)  to Windows 7 ??
>
> I am encouraged by the closeness of Vista and Windows 7 - ie same drivers,
> and internally Winodws 7 is actually V6.1 (compared to Vista V6.0).  And
the
> comments on being nice to use.
>
> I am discouraged by the fact being Sony its a OEM Vista and in the past
> whenever I have wanted to upgrade an OEM Windows the manufacturer has said
> basically "You can't"/"not supported"/violate warranty"/long list of
drivers
> to upgrade meant to discourage you from trying.
>
> I presume its possible to do an in-place upgrade - ie leaving everything
> installed there.   Don't really need a dual boot - if it doesn't work
fine I
> would just go back to Vista - (would restore from a Hard disk image).   I
> would like to keep Window Mail if an upgrade doesn't remove it - I hear
its
> not part of Windows 7?
>
> I went from 2GB to 4GB RAM, and for Vista and particlarly D2007 it made a
> big difference - lots of parts of the IDE would previously take ages to
> load, eg refactoring.   Now all is pretty smooth running.   Vista uses up
to
> about 3.2GB RAM and the rest does get used for caching as far as I
> understand.   Sysinternals reports Windows using about 2.5 to a bit over
3GB
> memory with usual workloads - D2007, lots of Firefox tabs.
>
> Personally quite happy with Vista, overall better than XP, some annoying
> areas are mainly failure to resume sometimes, long delays after login and
> resume before the PC is ready to accept input (well over a minute).  Some
of
> that is due to firewalls and AV updaters grabbing the PC and not letting
it
> go until done, but some of it is Vista I think.
>
> Note don't upgrade for huge speed improvements - From benchmarks I have
seen
> there was little difference between XP Vista and Windows 7 - some show 7
is
> a little slower than Vista, some a little faster
>
>
http://gizmodo.com/5233098/windows-7-release-candidate-1-vs-vista-first-benc
hmarks
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=5101&page=2
>
>
> John
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