[DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] memory issues

Jeremy Coulter jscoulter at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 14:50:48 NZST 2009


sorry ..... did your "you've got mail" wave file wake you up?   hehehe
:-D

Jeremy

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Conor Boyd <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>wrote:

>  Quite the opposite.
>
> We're all being so productive with our dual monitors that we've been too
> busy to contribute any more. :-P
>
> C.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Coulter
> *Sent:* Friday, 17 April 2009 2:25 p.m.
> *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] memory issues
>
> its gone very quite all of a sudden....has everyone with dual monitors had
> to go have a lie-down to rest their necks ?   :-D
>
> Jeremy
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, David Brennan <
> dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> The 2 * 30 inch screens sounded too much to me too although obviously if
>> it
>> works for someone then go for it!
>>
>> With screens I find it is a bell curve, more is most definitely best, but
>> only up to a point, then the extra space actually becomes distracting.
>> With
>> my 24" screen at work (screen #2, screen #1 is my laptop screen) I
>> initially
>> tried it vertical on the basis that I am writing/scrolling vertical lists
>> of
>> code but it was just huge... my eyes couldn't comfortably track up and
>> down
>> that large an angle. Left to right is less of an issue but even then get
>> too
>> many/too wide screens wrapped around and it just gets too hard to use the
>> extreme left and rights.
>>
>> I haven't tried it but imagine 3 screens being the maximum I could use,
>> one
>> large one (eg 24" widescreen, probably no more) in centre, and two smaller
>> ones (eg 19" 5x4 ratio) either side.
>>
>> My 2c.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]
>> On
>>  Behalf Of Alister Christie
>> Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 11:24 a.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] memory issues
>>
>> I think with 2 30 inch screens you'd get neck strain.  I've heard of
>> people having a 30 inch screen and two smaller screens rotated either
>> side (so that their width matches the height of the big screen) - which
>> means that you don't have a gap directly in front of you.
>>
>> I have a 26 inch screen at home and this was as large as I could justify
>> to myself for the price.  It has a 21 inch CRT beside it, but I haven't
>> felt the need to use it for awhile (not doing much coding on that
>> computer lately)
>>
>> Alister Christie
>> Computers for People
>> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>> PO Box 13085
>> Johnsonville
>> Wellington
>>
>>
>>
>> Leigh Wanstead wrote:
>> > If money is not an issue, I think two 30 inch lcd monitors is the way
>> > to go ;-)
>> >
>> > I only got one at home to look at my photos. It is amazing. I used a
>> > spyder to adjusted the color. I am programming c at home using gcc
>> > which is great to look at everything on that 30inch lcd monitor.
>> >
>> > Have a nice day
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Leigh
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     *From:* delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz]*On Behalf Of *Kyley Harris
>> >     *Sent:* Friday, 17 April 2009 9:55 a.m.
>> >     *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> >     *Subject:* Re: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] memory issues
>> >
>> >     id never work on that little thing.. dvd player.. I have a Quad
>> >     Core with 2 22" montiors running 1600x1050
>> >
>> >     On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Alister Christie
>> >     <alister at salespartner.co.nz <mailto:alister at salespartner.co.nz>>
>> >     wrote:
>> >
>> >         except you'd go blind if you had to do any real dev work on
>> >         because of
>> >         the small screen.  I now plug an external 24 inch screen into
>> >         my laptop
>> >         for a similar reason (fewer headaches).  The laptop does have
>> >         a 17 inch
>> >         screen but at 1920x1200 things are a bit small.  I remember
>> >         when I was
>> >         first programming in Delphi on a 14 (maybe it was 15) inch
>> >         monitor - my
>> >         how things have changed.
>> >
>> >         Alister Christie
>> >         Computers for People
>> >         Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>> >         http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>> >         PO Box 13085
>> >         Johnsonville
>> >         Wellington
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         Kyley Harris wrote:
>> >         > I have one of those $500 Asus EEE computers that runs
>> >         windows XP on
>> >         > 256MB of ram, and a 4GB SSD.. takes 25seconds to boot up..
>> >         way faster
>> >         > than any other laptop.. still has 120mb free ram and 1gb of
>> disk
>> >         > space.. I plug a USB hdd into it and its great. battery life
>> >         is awesome
>> >         >
>> >         > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Stefan Mueller
>> >         > <muellers at orcl-toolbox.com
>> >         <mailto:muellers at orcl-toolbox.com>
>> >         <mailto:muellers at orcl-toolbox.com
>> >         <mailto:muellers at orcl-toolbox.com>>> wrote:
>> >         >
>> >         >     I am also keeping my eyes open for SSD .. those drives
>> >         should be
>> >         >     able to
>> >         >     improve compile speeds drastically ... they have close to
>> no
>> >         >     seek-times and
>> >         >     manage to read thousands of small files at high speed.
>> >         >
>> >         >     I probably go with one of the PCIe cards coming out soon
>> >         (like OCZ
>> >         >     Z-Drive,
>> >         >     or PhotoFast Monster) if the price is ok. PCIe cards
>> >         have the
>> >         >     advantage that
>> >         >     they get over the 300MBps (theoretical) limit that
>> >         SATA-II has.
>> >         >
>> >         >     The OCZ Vertex-II drive also looks promising:
>> >         >
>> >
>>
>> http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&task
>> >
>> <
>> http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&tas
>> k>
>> >         >     =view
>> >         >
>> >
>> <
>> http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&tas
>> k%0A=view<http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&tas%0Ak%0A=view>
>> >
>> <
>> http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&tas
>> k%0A=view<http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?Itemid=67&id=11365&option=com_content&tas%0Ak%0A=view>
>> >>
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         >     Regards,
>> >         >     Stefan
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         >     -----Original Message-----
>> >         >     From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>
>> >         >     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>] On
>> >         >     Behalf Of Ross Levis
>> >         >     Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:56
>> >         >     To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
>> >         >     Subject: Re: [DUG] [OFF-TOPIC] memory issues
>> >         >
>> >         >     I'm looking forward to larger cheaper solid state drives
>> >         which
>> >         >     last up to
>> >         >     100 years, replacing hard drives which fail every few
>> >         years.  10+
>> >         >     times
>> >         >     faster than a hard drive.  I've heard a PC with one of
>> these
>> >         >     drives can boot
>> >         >     Windows XP in 4 seconds.
>> >         >
>> >         >     Prices will get below US$2 per GB this year.  It's still
>> >         out of my
>> >         >     price
>> >         >     range, but I'm considering upgrading my laptop's hard
>> >         drive to a 240GB
>> >         >     SanDisk drive later this year.
>> >         >     http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=8040
>> >         >
>> >         >     Ross.
>> >         >
>> >         >     -----Original Message-----
>> >         >     From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>
>> >         >     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>] On
>> >         >     Behalf Of Richard Bullin
>> >         >     Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2009 12:15 p.m.
>> >         >     To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> >         >     Subject: Re: [DUG] BDS.exe memory issues
>> >         >
>> >         >     I'm not really sure if 300mb classifies Delphi as a
>> >         memory hog if you
>> >         >     look at getting one of the below computers with 192GB of
>> >         ram, I
>> >         >     foresee
>> >         >     a surge in lazy programmers :)
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&
>> >
>> <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&
>> >
>> >         >     articleId=9130538
>> >         >
>> >
>> <
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&%0A
>> articleId=9130538<http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&%0A%0AarticleId=9130538>
>> >
>> <
>> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&%0A
>>  articleId=9130538>>
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         >     Richard
>> >         >
>> >         >     -----Original Message-----
>> >         >     From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>
>> >         >     [mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>
>> >         >     <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz
>> >         <mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz>>]
>> >         >     On Behalf Of Alister Christie
>> >         >     Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2009 12:01 p.m.
>> >         >     To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> >         >     Subject: Re: [DUG] BDS.exe memory issues
>> >         >
>> >         >     Currently I'm on 254MB.
>> >         >
>> >         >     Close Delphi - 0MB
>> >         >     Open Delphi - 11MB
>> >         >     Open Project - 71MB
>> >         >     Compile - 154MB (peaking at around 170MB)
>> >         >     Open a Project with modeling support - 215MB
>> >         >
>> >         >     And the numbers just keep going up from there the more
>> >         you do.
>> >         >
>> >         >     I think it's fair to say that it is a bit of a memory
>> >         hog.  Although I
>> >         >     have 6 chrome processes running currently eating up a
>> >         total of 155MB.
>> >         >
>> >         >     I guess we could turn this into a discussion of who is
>> >         running the
>> >         >     most
>> >         >     memory hungry App and/or instance of Delphi currently?
>> >         >     (Currently Jeremy leads at 307MB)
>> >         >
>> >         >     Alister Christie
>> >         >     Computers for People
>> >         >     Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>> >         >     http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>> >         >     PO Box 13085
>> >         >     Johnsonville
>> >         >     Wellington
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         >     Jeremy Coulter wrote:
>> >         >     > Does anyone else get issues with BDS.exe (delphi 2007)
>> >         using a
>> >         >     HEAP of
>> >         >
>> >         >     > memory?
>> >         >     > at the moment its sitting on 307mb of mem usage !
>> >         >     >
>> >         >     > Admittedly my current machine only has 2GB (new
>> >         machine has been
>> >         >     > ordered....YAY) but seriously, thats HEAPS.
>> >         >     > In saying that, I notic that FireFox is sitting on
>> >         131mb too.
>> >         >     >
>> >         >     > just wondered if this is a common issue, and if there is
>> a
>> >         >     solution to
>> >         >
>> >         >     > it or not.
>> >         >     >
>> >         >     >
>> >         >     > Jeremy
>> >         >     >
>> >         >     >
>> >         >
>> >
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