[DUG] Developers not upgrading

Cheng Wei (FMI) chengw at fmi.co.nz
Mon May 12 11:47:26 NZST 2008


Hi,

We've used Delphi .NET (2006) and Visual Studio.

>From our experience, Delphi .NET failed us completely, the tool is
simply not up to scratch, it should not have been released in my
opinion. (Is it any better in 2007 I don't know).

We use Visual Studio for all our .NET developments and the experience is
satisfying.

We're a loyal Borland customer for well over a decade and Borland tools
have always been our first choice. But not .NET I'm afraid.

Cheng Wei
Software Development Manager
FMI Research Ltd

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|-----Original Message-----
|From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz 
|[mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Gary T. Benner
|Sent: Monday, 12 May 2008 11:12 p.m.
|To: rob at chreos.co.nz
|Cc: delphi at delphi.org.nz
|Subject: RE: Re: [DUG] Developers not upgrading
|
|[Reply]
|
|Hi all,
|
|I'd like to add another dimension to this conversation ... 
|after talking to today to a client who told me that he had 
|developers leaving as they saw their career path with C#, and 
|not "Delphi".
|
|I talked about the migration path with Delphi so they could be 
|doing both Pascal and C#  etc ... Some lack of product 
|knowledge there ..
|
|Anyway, I wondered just how many people are not upgrading to 
|Delphi ( with later versions supporting C#  ), because they 
|did not understand the scope of the product, and the cost 
|savings of retaining existing pascal codebase while moving 
|ahead with new features in C#.
|
|In the example above, the client was anticipating going to 
|rewrite the whole codebase ....
|
|Is this another case of Borland's lack of marketing skill?
|
|Let's hope Embarcadero only bought the tech staff and left the 
|marketing dept behind.
|
|And one last comment, a request actually, how many people have 
|used both Delphi .NET and Visual Studio - and how do they compare?
|
|cheers
|
|Gary
|
|
|At 10:31 on 12/05/2008 Robert martin wrote
|
|
|>To : delphi at delphi.org.nz
|>CC : 
|>From: Robert martin, rob at chreos.co.nz
|>Content Type: text/plain
|>Attached: 
|>
|>Hi
|>
|>This is a side track but....
|>
|>We did upgrade to D2007 and feel somewhat ripped off. D2007 has a 
|>number of major bugs that we have reported, seen promoted to the 
|>internal database and never seen a fix for. When D2007 was 
|released the 
|>auto updating aspect was heavily pushed (at the launch).
|>
|>a) It has never auto updated (we always have to manually run separate 
|>app to check for updates).
|>b) A number of major bugs don't seem to be being fixed, probably in 
|>favor of a new release.
|>
|>Does one upgrade to a new release if it might break parts of 
|their app 
|>and then they have to wait 2+ yrs for a new version to fix that?
|>
|>
|>--
|>Rob Martin
|>Software Engineer
|
|Ref#: 41006
|
|
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