[DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA

Jeremy Coulter vss at vss.co.nz
Mon Aug 27 15:13:55 NZST 2007


you get a static IP with Cable with TelstraClear not  ADSL unless you are a 
business, and thats a telecom thing. Which is completely stupid and 
illigical, considering my connection has been up for ...well now Iliik its 
been 16days as I forgot I rebooted my router when I accidently unplugged 
it....but before that it  was over 60 days !!  thats a pretty static IP 
address if you ask me !
The ISP I uses before T/Clear was a local crowed called SNAP, and their 
service was all OVER the place !! the connection never stayed up more than 
4-5 days at a time. They told me it was my line, which I knew was total 
crap, as before them I was with Paradise and never had any problems, and now 
I have goent o T/Clear, my connection is completely stable....

Jeremy



-----Original Message-----

From: "Conor Boyd" <Conor.Boyd at trimble.co.nz>

To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" <delphi at delphi.org.nz>

Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:32:36 +1200

Subject: RE: [DUG] Indy Smtp and XTRA





Yeah?



I haven't got the TelstraClear TOS available, but my 
recollection was that you could run a server at home?  Not that I 
do...



Nice that you get a static IP with TelstraClear 
too.



C.




From: delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz 
[mailto:delphi-bounces at delphi.org.nz] On Behalf OfJeremy 
Coulter

Hi Rohit....I 
thought you were not alowed to run internet servers on your home PC with 
Xtra? 
Atleast that was what they told me some time ago, and even Paradise made 
that 
comment to me at some stage when I was talking to one of their tech support 
guys, but then said...."its a stupid and we dont enforce it" and neither 
does 
TelstraClear...as I run a mailserver too :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rohit Gupta rohit at cfl.co.nz [mailto:rohit at cfl.co.nz]
  
What Xtra did was to classify their users as home or business.  For 
  home users, outlook presumably sorts out the requirement of ssl.  And 
  business users are using mail servers so they have to use SSL 
  explicitly.  The problem is that there are many users that are businesses 
  without a mail server and home users with a mailserver.  They will have 
  problems.  Add to that if you application does not support SSL, then you 
  are stuffed.

At home, I run a mailserver called hamster.  
  

It suddenly stopped working, it was still receiving some emails (not 
  all) but not sending any.  

I tried the webmail - that did not 
  work with IE or Firefox.  

I  read the old emails from xtra, 
  found one with a url link which forced me to register for yahoo.  A page 
  in the middle of the registration told me to change the port numbers.  I 
  did that but still no luck.

I had heard on the radio about business 
  customers having problems, so I enabled SSL3 on hamster.  Now the error 
  message changed, but still no luck.  Then I tried SSL2 and it burst into 
  life.   When I complained to the CEO, the reply was a link to their 
  website - this one tells you to use SSL :-)

Basically, they still treat 
  their customers like shit and act like a monopoly.  They only reason I 
  have not changed as that I dont want to change my email address.  I will 
  just have to get a domain name for my emails.


  
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