[DUG] TIdSMTP and XTRA Secure Remote Email

[Robert martin]

Our users have had a lot of problems with the extra service telling us 
one (or more) of our 50 email addresses is invalid but not telling us 
which one.  I hadn't thought of sending the emails one by one as a 
solution thou :)


Rob Martin
Software Engineer

phone +64 03 377 0495
fax   +64 03 377 0496
web www.chreos.com

Wild Software Ltd



Alister Christie wrote:
> Yeah, they also have some anti-harvesting stuff.  When doing a big BCC 
> email I've been splitting emails up into groups of 45 recipients, but 
> xtra have some annoying error messages that don't inform you which 
> recipient is bad (out of the 45) - I guess I could just perform a sort 
> of binary search to find out which one it is.  I havn't run into any 
> problems sending out a seperate email to each user - except that some 
> virus scanners can't keep up.
>
> Alister Christie
> Computers for People
> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
> PO Box 13085
> Johnsonville
> Wellington
>
>
> Robert martin wrote:
>> Hi they told us some of them (we must be too nice).
>>
>> I think the core rule was you cant send an email to more than 99 
>> (49?) email addresses in one go.  However if you want to send an 
>> email to 1000 there is nothing stopping you sending it as 11 separate 
>> < 100 address emails.
>>
>> I hope I haven't just destroyed national security :)
>>
>> Rob Martin
>> Software Engineer
>>
>> phone +64 03 377 0495
>> fax   +64 03 377 0496
>> web www.chreos.com
>>
>> Wild Software Ltd
>>
>>
>>
>> Alister Christie wrote:
>>> Xtra is just evil in my opinion.  I've had lots of problems sending 
>>> bulk emails - they have spam rules in place but won't let on as to 
>>> what they are, lest the real spammers find out and work around them.
>>>
>>> Alister Christie
>>> Computers for People
>>> Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266
>>> http://www.salespartner.co.nz
>>> PO Box 13085
>>> Johnsonville
>>> Wellington
>>>
>>>
>>> John Davys wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use XTRA's Secure Remote Email service and am trying to use an 
>>>> Indy TIdSMTP component (BDS2006, Indy 10.1.5) to send an email 
>>>> message via XTRA's smtp server. This server (smtpr.xtra.co.nz) 
>>>> requires user authentication and SSL to send through it.
>>>>
>>>> I can send messages to myself or my colleagues who also have xtra 
>>>> mailboxes, but if I try to send to a non-XTRA mailbox I get an 
>>>> EIdSMTPReplyError exception, with code 550 reported i.e. "Requested 
>>>> action not taken: mailbox unavailable", so I guess XTRA has 
>>>> tightened up its security and is now assuming I am a spammer and is 
>>>> blocking me since this used to work fine.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone managed to work out the combinations of properties for a 
>>>> TIdSMTP & associated TIdSSLIOHandlerSocketOpenSSL component (since 
>>>> the Secure Remote service requires SSL) and TIdMessage that will 
>>>> work with XTRA?
>>>>
>>>> I've tried pretending to be Outlook 2003 (my normal mail client) by 
>>>> setting TIdSMTP.MailAgent to "Microsoft Office Outlook 11" etc 
>>>> which didn't work (this sets the X-Mailer header). Other settings 
>>>> I'm using with TIdSMTP:
>>>>
>>>> AuthType = atDefault
>>>> Host = smtpr.xtra.co.nz
>>>> Port = 465
>>>> UseEhlo = true
>>>>
>>>> Plus my Username and Password of course.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> John
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>
>>>> John Davys, Senior Consultant, Database Systems
>>>> Rezare Systems Limited
>>>> Waikato Innovation Park Ph: +64 7 8570824
>>>> PO Box 9466 Fax: +64 7 8570501
>>>> Hamilton Mobile: +64 275570824
>>>> _john.davys at rezare.co.nz_ <mailto:john.davys at rezare.co.nz>
>>>>
>>>>
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