[DUG] D2006
Kyley Harris
kyley at harrissoftware.com
Wed May 24 01:08:38 NZST 2006
Yep. In the last 15 years I've been through 3 or 4 major development
platform changes. But .Net has to be the one thing where I see no true
actual offerings to me or my clients in the change.
As far as the built in DB thing goes, I think it's a good idea, if the
structure of the design is simple and easy to use. Goes back to Clipper
& DBF days. Which certainly made programming of DOS software a breeze
compared to Pascal languages when dealing with databases.
I don't mind changing my tune in the IT industry when it warrants it, as
you say. If the horse is winning the race you don't put a bullet in the
head because someone convinces you the new horse will eventually be
better. You just wait and see what happens.
Forgetting personal preferences for .net or win32 etc. Because I'm sure
I'd be quite happy using Delphi .Net (or more likely CHROME) if I had to
go that way. But the cost of moving to a new language if not necessary
is not just 10k of compilers and 3rd party libs. That's chup change
compared to the 100k+ per developer in retraining and redevelopment of
code.
I see people all the time that grab C# or Delphi, who may be C, or VB
programmers etc and think that a few weeks on the job and they now have
all the skills to write quality software. It takes years to fully
realize a professional skill set in any language & core library
architecture for a typical employee software developer. Before that time
in the develop as I learn model, you might sell the product and get a
little money, but you loose a lot in debugging and other costs.
I feel like I'm regurgitating (how do you spell that) the subject. :-)
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From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
On Behalf Of Stefan Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:48 a.m.
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
>And if I am completely wrong in 5 years time well then, I can always
retire and do something more fun.
... like riding on garbage trucks through the neighborhood listening to
AC/DC.
IT is the wrong market if you don't like a change every now and then.
... but even knowing that I can't help myself and fully agree to you,
.Net isn't offering much new that we couldn't do in Delphi.VCL and I
don't see a point to switch horses (from win32 to .net) yet.
Kind Regards,
Stefan Mueller
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From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
On Behalf Of Kyley Harris
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:28 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
I'll be avoiding .net for infinity and beyond (if I can)
I think it's the biggest FAD since win32 api (except for the win32 api)
but a fad that will fade.
There are some good places it seems nice to like web, but then there is
php and stuff too.
Who knows until humpty dumpty falls off the wall. There is a lot of life
in Delphi and C++ yet I am guessing without going C# etc.
And if I am completely wrong in 5 years time well then, I can always
retire and do something more fun.
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From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
On Behalf Of Paul A Norman
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:06 a.m.
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] D2006
Or could that be . . .
"Why do you need .NET 2.0? (<- very faded colour)
"Apart from generics, everything else is available elsewhere AFAIK.
On 23/05/06, Richard Vowles <Richard.Vowles at borland.com> wrote:
Why do you need .NET 2.0?
Apart from generics, everything else is available elsewhere AFAIK.
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From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz on behalf of Jeremy Coulter
Sent: Tue 23/05/2006 22:46
To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
Subject: RE: [DUG] D2006
agh...thats what I thought....damn...IS there going to be a Delphi
version soon that supports .NET 2.0 ?
If not, I am faces with VS2005 and learning C# which, I dont have time
for right now either...sigh....well I could us VB.NET but I REFUSE to go
backwards :-)
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