[DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)

[Dennis Chuah]

Me thinks you are the one missing the point here.  Its not about pride but 
about using source control to document which programmer did what to the 
code.  It removes the need for programmers to sign code and is ample prove 
that you as a contractor has done what is required.

I for one, would insist that programmers not sign code, contractors or 
otherwise.  I would rather they used the time to document the code and leave 
it up the source control to manage the who did what.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rohit Gupta" <r.gupta at xtra.co.nz>
To: <edwardh at bigfoot.com>; "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" 
<delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)


> Some of you are missing the point here.
> First, if you are not prepared to sign your work, then my assertion is 
> that you are not proud of it.  Ergo, you have written crap and you have 
> not done the best job you could.  And I have come across many such 
> programmers (some are part of this user group).  In contrast, I am proud 
> of everything I have ever done, because it was the best effort and quality 
> I could put in at that time.
>
> Second, how do you prove you did some work, when the owner removes all 
> reference to your name from the source.  The name did not use to flash on 
> the screen, it was just in the source.  When the beggar kept removing even 
> that, I put the Easter egg in.  The point of it, If I went for a job 
> interview, I could prove it was my work.  You cant do that with a listing. 
> Anyone can type something up.  And yes, I have come across many such 
> people who have invented a listing the night before the interview, some 
> inhabit this user group.
>
> The flip side is I never remove a contributors name from the code I have 
> obtained, bought or inherited.
>
> So, Edward, you are saying that you have never put your name on any of 
> your work....  why is that ?
>
> Edward Huang wrote:
>>
>> I have been a contractor myself, and also currently have contractors 
>> worked for me.  I wouldn't think a contractor should put in any reference 
>> to himself/herself in the code, and I would be very annoyed if a 
>> contractor keep doing it.
>>
>> What's the point to have name all over the code? What if the code has 
>> been changed/fixed by other developers many times afterwards? As said, 
>> source code control should sort out who did what, instead of you spend 
>> time on write your name everywhere. Besides if you are a contractor, 
>> usually you cannot claim the IP of the source code anyway.
>>
>> Also, if you spend time on write "Easter eggs" as you said, I would be 
>> seriously thinking that you didn't spend time doing the contracting job, 
>> thus you should charge less contracting hours.
>>
>>
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
>>     [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]*On Behalf Of *tracey
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, 4 May 2006 12:40 p.m.
>>     *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
>>     *Subject:* RE: [DUG] In case you're interested (or buy stuff)
>>
>>     >What do you do when you are contracting and you want to prove you 
>> did
>>
>>     the work, but the idiotic contractee keeps removing all reference
>>     to you
>>
>>     from the code ?  One memorable instance of this was  when I wrote
>>     a CPM
>>
>>     clone optimised for Z80 for Sord Computers and they kept removing my
>>
>>     name from the code.  Eventually I had to invent an error message and
>>
>>     code that looked legit.  But if three specific keys were pressed
>>
>>     simultaneously, it popped up a message saying that I wrote it.
>>
>>     *Um, have never contracted but... why is it so important to have
>>     your name in the code? For future employment reference? Surely the
>>     actual contract that sets out your work, + actual code, is enough
>>     for proof of work? (pardon my ignorance here)
>>
>>
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