[DUG] D2006/Rave/Memory

Fri Jul 7 18:16:20 NZST 2006

Dear David,

Compared to Borland's (or historic Borland's) corporate culture and
especially Delphi type of stuff, I think that MS folk are corporately
bred or mutated just to operate in a different commercial realm . . they had
some agreement between them and hardware manufactures which apparently came
out during those Senate hearings in Washington, which basically says it all,
it stated that they would be leveraging the requirements of hardware up and
up through the OS's needs.

MS folk are very upward mobile - and if you spend time with any long termer
MS folk you get the USA type of feeling of  -- What would you want to run a
slower machine for, than you could be running any way?

bigger ..  faster .. better ... the  American way!

They would think us strange to not just run out and buy new machines if the
update or new OS means the current machine is now, oh, *so last month*!

They (or many of the MS crew) would quite genuinely  think us strange for
thinking that they would engineer even updates for *last week's* computer.

Its quite amazing the first time you strike it, and there is a certain truth
in it, though many of us can not bear the financial reality of it.

USA Americans will often feel that we waste time on things that we really
should throw money at.

And they do have a valid point, its a bit of a kiwi weakness the number
eight wire approach when we should use the proper thing even if it costs.

Then N#8  also gives us an innovative edge . . . but some where may be we
can learn from the MS approach (what am I saying!) But it might be true ...

Paul

On 07/07/06, David Brennan <dugdavid at dbsolutions.co.nz> wrote:
>
>   Heh. The skeptic in me says that is Microsoft trying to get you to
> forget how fast Windows XP WAS so that when Windows Vista comes out you look
> at it and think "oh, that's not so slow after all, it might even be faster
> than XP, maybe I will buy it"
>
>
>
> Conspiracy theory? Or reality?
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> *From:* delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *Paul A Norman
> *Sent:* Thursday, 6 July 2006 11:46 p.m.
> *To:* johnkbird at paradise.net.nz; NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> *Subject:* Re: [DUG] D2006/Rave/Memory
>
>
>
> Dear John,
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> I've been using 500Mb ram for two and half years now, and all has been
> fine uintil the last couple of auto-updates from MS for Xp it seems. Now for
> some reason I don't seem to be able to easily do many memory intensive
> things that I have done for ages.
>
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> Other friends commenting the same.
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>
> Paul
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> On 05/07/06, *John Bird* <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> I think I have finally proved my memory woes are caused by BDS - I just
> had the PC running slow, according to sysinternals System Information it was
> using 955MB of ram (system memory is 768MB hence everything started
> crawling), on closing BDS it immediately dropped to 355MB.  I had my big
> project open (with RvSystem) but first I closed it and opened a small
> project - it didn't free up any memory, but closing BDS did.
>
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> Any suggestions?
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> Otherwise I think its off to the shop to upgrade memory to 1GB (maximum
> this system takes). Dunno if that will fix it tho!
>
>
>
> John
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> *On Behalf Of *John Bird
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:34 a.m.
> *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'; delphi at delphi.org.nz
> *Subject:* [DUG] D2006/Rave/Memory
>
> I am having frequent instances of my PC running out of memory and coming
> up with messages about "Windows has run out of virtual memory and is
> increasing the page file size"  The hard disk goes crazy, the pc slows to a
> crawl and usually the Windows session goes cuckoo after that, even exiting
> programs to lessen memory use can take forever, and usually the best is to
> reboot.  I have tried to narrow it down - Firefox with lots of tabs? well I
> tried Opera instead and IE7.
>
>
>
> I have no proof but my best guess so far is BDS 2006 with a project open
> using Rave Reports - it only started happening after I used Rave in a few
> projects.  Projects without it I think are be OK.  I am only using the
> RvSystem component for code based reports, although it is quite large - it
> adds some 800K to the program.  Rebuild such a project a few times over
> a few hours, and it seems the system runs out of memory.  This is without
> running the Rave printing at all  - I am testing other stuff, also using the
> debugger.  Process explorer doesn't show any obvious candidate.  Or
> alternatively it could be any component with large memory usage - Rave is
> the only one I use of such size.  Or maybe the debugger is another candidate
> (I often run programs with a few breakoints set to check some variable
> values, thats pretty much all I do with it).
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> Anyone else have any similar experience?
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> The system is Windows XP SP2, 768MB Ram,  over 2GB free disk, have
> defragmented recently (it seems to help a lot), have sysinternals
> Processexplorer (thumbs up).
>
> John
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