[DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger

[Gary T. Benner]

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Also check out the whole section:

http://info.borland.com/techpubs/delphi/

There is the Delphi 2005  (1676 pages in PDF format) help. Check out page 109 for more on debugging.

kr

Gary


At 11:08 on 15/02/2006 you wrote 
>To  : delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
>CC  : >From: Leigh Wanstead, leigh at softtech.co.nz
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>Hi John,
>
>In case that you do not have access the book. Here is an article published
>by Borland.
>
>http://info.borland.com/techpubs/delphi/delphi5/qs/environ.html
>
>Search section title  Debugging applications and you will get your answer.
>
>Regards
>Leigh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "John Bird" <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz>
>To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:31:20 +1300
>Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger
>
>> "just basic knowledge about how to debug in Delphi"  you might tell me
>> where
>> this is documented in the debugger help, and where this basic knowledge
>> comes from - how did you get it for instance? (someone told you,
>> hopefully
>> kindly).  Remember most operations in a GUI environment are based on
>> many
>> implicit assumptions on how things on the screen behave.  For someone
>> not
>> educated in an assumption they are not obvious...
>> >> I remember reading of Steve Balmer watching through a two way mirror at
>> one
>> of the first useability labs of MS Word for windows - users were
>> instructed
>> to drag the mouse down to scroll down the page, and some users, new to
>> a
>> mouse, were seen to run the mouse  down the leg of the desk.  He
>> literally
>> tore his hair out at how much he realised users had to be taought and
>> said
>> the profound lesson is that you cannot assume users understand anything
>> that
>> is obvious to you....they will not and they will break it!
>> >> "He who asks a question is a fool for a moment, he who doesn't ask a
>> question is a fool forever"
>> -Albert Einstein
>> >> John
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
>> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On
>> Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead
>> Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 7:59 a.m.
>> To: delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
>> Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger
>> >> >> Hi John,
>> >> I did not receive your previous email. But base on what you said in
>> your
>> post, I must say that is just basic knowledge about how to debug in
>> Delphi.
>> I think Delphi do a proper job as what instructed to do. Nothing wrong
>> about
>> Delphi. The only thing I can suggest is to read a Delphi starter book
>> which
>> I recalled that I suggested you long time ago in DUG mailing list IIRC.
>> >> Regards
>> Leigh
>> http://www.salenz.com
>> >> > I wasn't sure how to close it (did it via browser), but I added a >> > comment I regard it as closed - except I suggested that the IDE
>> should >> > either not allow breakpoints to be entered if debug compile is turned
>> > off, or warn if
>> > they are there.
>> > >> > Otherwise people like me who don't know will be completely mystified,
>> > even if its obvious to others.  Remember the days before you knew >> > really really
>> > obvious things - someone had to teach you them.  I still remember my
>> > first
>> > day on a computer keyboard when someone told me to press Control/Z,
>> and
>> > I
>> > said "What is this Control thing?" now it seems obvious but it sure
>> as
>> > hell
>> > wasn't then.  And the IDE in this case didn't help with any hint....
>> > >> > In the end I solved it by taking the hint about blue dots missing and
>> > googling "delphi blue dots missing when compile" and it gave lots of >> > references about search paths (which wasn't the problem) and stray >> > dcu's (which also wasn't) and one reference among dozens about >> > compiler option -D
>> > and +D (which sort of was).
>> > >> > John
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