[DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger

[Leigh Wanstead]

Hi John,

In case that you do not have access the book. Here is an article published
by Borland.

http://info.borland.com/techpubs/delphi/delphi5/qs/environ.html

Search section title  Debugging applications and you will get your answer.

Regards
Leigh

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Bird" <johnkbird at paradise.net.nz>
To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'" <delphi at ns3.123.co.nz>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:31:20 +1300
Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger

> "just basic knowledge about how to debug in Delphi"  you might tell me
> where
> this is documented in the debugger help, and where this basic knowledge
> comes from - how did you get it for instance? (someone told you,
> hopefully
> kindly).  Remember most operations in a GUI environment are based on
> many
> implicit assumptions on how things on the screen behave.  For someone
> not
> educated in an assumption they are not obvious...
> 
> I remember reading of Steve Balmer watching through a two way mirror at
> one
> of the first useability labs of MS Word for windows - users were
> instructed
> to drag the mouse down to scroll down the page, and some users, new to
> a
> mouse, were seen to run the mouse  down the leg of the desk.  He
> literally
> tore his hair out at how much he realised users had to be taought and
> said
> the profound lesson is that you cannot assume users understand anything
> that
> is obvious to you....they will not and they will break it!
> 
> "He who asks a question is a fool for a moment, he who doesn't ask a
> question is a fool forever"
> -Albert Einstein
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz
> [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On
> Behalf Of Leigh Wanstead
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 7:59 a.m.
> To: delphi at ns3.123.co.nz
> Subject: RE: [DUG] I broke the D2006 debugger
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I did not receive your previous email. But base on what you said in
> your
> post, I must say that is just basic knowledge about how to debug in
> Delphi.
> I think Delphi do a proper job as what instructed to do. Nothing wrong
> about
> Delphi. The only thing I can suggest is to read a Delphi starter book
> which
> I recalled that I suggested you long time ago in DUG mailing list IIRC.
> 
> Regards
> Leigh
> http://www.salenz.com
> 
> > I wasn't sure how to close it (did it via browser), but I added a 
> > comment I regard it as closed - except I suggested that the IDE
> should 
> > either not allow breakpoints to be entered if debug compile is turned
> > off, or warn if
> > they are there.
> > 
> > Otherwise people like me who don't know will be completely mystified,
> > even if its obvious to others.  Remember the days before you knew 
> > really really
> > obvious things - someone had to teach you them.  I still remember my
> > first
> > day on a computer keyboard when someone told me to press Control/Z,
> and
> > I
> > said "What is this Control thing?" now it seems obvious but it sure
> as
> > hell
> > wasn't then.  And the IDE in this case didn't help with any hint....
> > 
> > In the end I solved it by taking the hint about blue dots missing and
> > googling "delphi blue dots missing when compile" and it gave lots of 
> > references about search paths (which wasn't the problem) and stray 
> > dcu's (which also wasn't) and one reference among dozens about 
> > compiler option -D
> > and +D (which sort of was).
> > 
> > John
> 
> 
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