[DUG] More Delphi news...

Neven MacEwan neven at mwk.co.nz
Fri Apr 28 13:50:15 NZST 2006


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1973 911E 'Eva',
1970 194/6 'Eric',
Replica 1964 904 'Yet to be named'

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James Sugrue wrote:
> What models?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz] On
> Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
> Sent: Friday, 28 April 2006 1:02 p.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] More Delphi news...
> 
> J
> 
> As I own 2 Porsches (and am building a replica of one as well) I'd have 
> to take umbridge at the comparison. Porsche do not propose that their 
> car is universal and get it accepted as a standard (.NET), Porsche do 
> not sign license agreement for technology and then intentionally attempt 
> to break it (Java), they just make cars that burn the same fuel, run on 
> the same roads and take the same format tyres as everyone else (as an 
> aside can anyone think of any other item which is speced in imperial, 
> metric/dimensionless  at the same time ie 225/15/60)
> 
> The IT industry is by its very nature based on a high level of 
> interoperability which might be is against the creed of the free-est of 
> the free marketeers but the free market doesn't work for monopolies 
> which is why this is legislated. No-one prevents M$ from stating that 
> they don't conform to the standards. My point is that M$ will abandon 
> .NET if it feels like it and you are probably  more at risk from 
> disruption by following M$ than you are by standing aside. M$ on one 
> hand are disruptive (.NET XAML etc) and on the other slow (ie compare 
> the dev rate on Windows to Linux)
> 
> I feel for Borland as they are stooges in some respects, they get beaten 
> up all the time but kept alive for the facade of competition they 
> represent (so that M$ doesn't get legislated against)
> 
> I am considering upgrading from Win2K Pro soon any suggestions?
> 
> N
> 
> James Sugrue wrote:
>> Playing devils advocate for a minute....
>>
>> Clearly breaking apps is a different story, but isn't evolving your
> business
>> model to take on your competitors just good business sense? 
>>
>> I would argue that some of the stuff they are doing in the .NET space is
>> innovative, whereas others is taking someone else's idea and making it
>> better. Isn't that just the way the world works? Ferrari(or Porsche if you
>> prefer) didn't invent the car they just build on Benz's ideas and made
> them
>> better. Do you feel the same about them?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz [mailto:delphi-bounces at ns3.123.co.nz]
> On
>> Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
>> Sent: Friday, 28 April 2006 12:08 p.m.
>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
>> Subject: Re: [DUG] More Delphi news...
>>
>> J
>>
>> Im not quite sure how numbers could be 'anti .NET' but i'm not surprised 
>> by the numbers 0.1% would have been to much.
>>
>> Does anyone remember OS/2 and how one of the office apps used to fall 
>> over in it
>>
>> Its quite obvious how M$ work, muddy, divide, conquer, The
>> examples of this are endless and .NET is just one to slow Java, if XUL 
>> takes off, we bring in XAML, If Ajax gets a foothold ...
>>
>> Freedom to innovate..bullshit
>>
>> N
>>
>> Jeremy North wrote:
>>> On 4/28/06, Richard Vowles <Richard.Vowles at borland.com> wrote:
>>>> What a very interesting post. Thanks KuetFung!
>>> Take Grimes' posts with a grain of salt. He is very anti-.NET.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
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> 

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